IF AROD DOES NOT PLAY FOR GREEN BAY NEXT YEAR

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yeah, his "off years", maybe 90% of the other teams would have loved to have him during those shitty years

Rodgers wasn’t really even a top 10 QB in 2018-2019, so no not entirely true. He still had the stellar interception rate, but everything about his stats and real life play was trending downwards.

He had the second and third worst completion percentage in his career (~62%) and the second and third worst yards/attempt in his career (low 7s). TD % was way down too. Advanced metrics had him between #10-15 best QB in those two years. He was slightly above average those 2 years—not top 10%

[HarveyWallbangers]

As I've said numerous times, whatever Brady can do, Rodgers can do longer and better.

Nope. Wish I could bet you. In seven years I’d strongly bet against Rodgers still playing at an elite level and winning Super Bowls.

[George Cumby]

Rodgers wasn’t really even a top 10 QB in 2018-2019, so no not entirely true. He still had the stellar interception rate, but everything about his stats and real life play was trending downwards.

He had the second and third worst completion percentage in his career (~62%) and the second and third worst yards/attempt in his career (low 7s). TD % was way down too. Advanced metrics had him between #10-15 best QB in those two years. He was slightly above average those 2 years—not top 10%

And this is why drafting the heir apparent was a sound personnel move.

[George Cumby]

Nope. Wish I could bet you. In seven years I’d strongly bet against Rodgers still playing at an elite level and winning Super Bowls.

We'd be lining up for that money.

[NewsBruin]

FWIW, Rodgers can't wait out his contract or "retire" out of the Packers. Favre un-retired and played for the Vikings only because the Jets waived him. A-Rod can go on a Jeopardy! sabbatical until 2024, but he can't come back to any other team he wants to.

I think Rodgers is looking for more money just to keep score against the front office and other QBs, but it won't apply in reverse. I'm sure he'd go broke for spite, but he'd already got enough for his ex-wife's grandkids to be set for life.

Because the CBA includes a salary cap, Rodgers' "We're sorry we didn't do things 'the right way'" apology signing bonus for a bogus five-year extension will require his teammates to restructure their contracts or get cut. That'll show the top brass who's speaking up for the unappreciated roster-clinger.

[call_me_ishmael]

Nope. Wish I could bet you. In seven years I’d strongly bet against Rodgers still playing at an elite level and winning Super Bowls.

Obviously I don't know if he can or not, but I agree with you in that it's very unlikely if only for the reason that *none of Brady's peers have done it*. Manning, Brees, etc all fell off a cliff. There really is something special about Tom, which is probably why he won all of the those Super Bowls.

[wist43]

Rodgers wasn’t really even a top 10 QB in 2018-2019, so no not entirely true. He still had the stellar interception rate, but everything about his stats and real life play was trending downwards.

He had the second and third worst completion percentage in his career (~62%) and the second and third worst yards/attempt in his career (low 7s). TD % was way down too. Advanced metrics had him between #10-15 best QB in those two years. He was slightly above average those 2 years—not top 10%

And this is why drafting the heir apparent was a sound personnel move.

Rodgers mediocre play had nothing to do with diminishing skills, it was a headcase issue stemming largely from MM and the overall dysfunction at the top of the organization.

The scheme under MM had become stale and Rodgers wasn't inclined to play within it anyway. He held the ball too long looking for big plays, chucked the ball 50 yds downfield when a 10 yr crossing route was wide open and all we needed was 5 yds for a first down, and generally played undisciplined, sandlot football.

His poor play was all about his head being fucked up, and the organization being dysfunctional at the top.

To his credit, Gute steadied the ship, and MF has proven to be a good hire. If Gute hadn't handled the Rodgers situation in such a ham handed way, and hadn't thrown all that draft capital last year - I think we win the SB last year, and would be the favorites to win it this year.

[texaspackerbacker]

Nope. Wish I could bet you. In seven years I’d strongly bet against Rodgers still playing at an elite level and winning Super Bowls.

I wish I could bet you too hahahahaha.

P. Manning had the near career-ending neck injury, and Brees was smaller and flimsier all along. Rodgers is used to playing with the massive pass rush against him, has a helluva lot more mobility than Brady, and best of all, he has that mindset not to throw interceptions. Rodgers is six years younger than Brady. If he's still playing in six years, he will be at least as good as Brady was this past year for Tampa. And if he is still playing, it damn well better be for the Packers, or else Gutekunst, Murphy, the whole bunch needs to be run out of town.

[King Friday]

As I've said numerous times, whatever Brady can do, Rodgers can do longer and better.

Except get to the Super bowl... Let alone win.

[King Friday]

I wish I could bet you too hahahahaha.

P. Manning had the near career-ending neck injury, and Brees was smaller and flimsier all along. Rodgers is used to playing with the massive pass rush against him, has a helluva lot more mobility than Brady, and best of all, he has that mindset not to throw interceptions. Rodgers is six years younger than Brady. If he's still playing in six years, he will be at least as good as Brady was this past year for Tampa. And if he is still playing, it damn well better be for the Packers, or else Gutekunst, Murphy, the whole bunch needs to be run out of town.

Brady wasn't that great last year. He was mediocre. Tampa's defense is what won the title.

[bobblehead]

Nope. Wish I could bet you. In seven years I’d strongly bet against Rodgers still playing at an elite level and winning Super Bowls.

Venmo and paypal make a wager easy...but if Rodgers plays to 45 Tex is likely to be dead so he would have to put it in his will.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers mediocre play had nothing to do with diminishing skills, it was a headcase issue stemming largely from MM and the overall dysfunction at the top of the organization.

The scheme under MM had become stale and Rodgers wasn't inclined to play within it anyway. He held the ball too long looking for big plays, chucked the ball 50 yds downfield when a 10 yr crossing route was wide open and all we needed was 5 yds for a first down, and generally played undisciplined, sandlot football.

His poor play was all about his head being fucked up, and the organization being dysfunctional at the top.

To his credit, Gute steadied the ship, and MF has proven to be a good hire. If Gute hadn't handled the Rodgers situation in such a ham handed way, and hadn't thrown all that draft capital last year - I think we win the SB last year, and would be the favorites to win it this year.

Wist how old are you. Loss of focus is definitely an age related decline in skills. We saw Favre lose his focus on running a winning offense over the years as well. When they traded him he regained his desire for a couple seasons, but then he regressed right back to content. I don't actually want Rodgers anymore to be honest. He has lost his desire. He was mailing it in just like you say. Now, good and pissed and wanting to "win" the battle he had an MVP season. The time to trade him is now. If they re sign him to a monster deal he will be very content and likely be good for us for about 2 years. Then his interest in football will wane again. I think we just saw the absolute best season Rodgers had left and if 3 firsts are on the table you trade him. He is good and motivated for his new team for a year or 2 just to prove he is right. Oh well. By 2023 season I think Rodgers will be Brees of the last 3 years.

And final note to address your final point. If Bak stays healthy OR if Rodgers just runs towards the endzone on 2nd and 3rd down I also think we win the Owl. Not sure drafting someone besides Love was honestly the difference though.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Brady wasn't that great last year. He was mediocre. Tampa's defense is what won the title.

4633 passing yards, 40 TDs, 12 picks, 102.2 QBR = MEDIOCRE???

[texaspackerbacker]

Venmo and paypal make a wager easy...but if Rodgers plays to 45 Tex is likely to be dead so he would have to put it in his will.

Sheeeesh. That's just 8 years. If I don't live to at least 120, I'm gonna be extremely pissed off. Hell, I expect to still be playing tennis at 100 or more.

Saying Brady was mediocre last year is similar to when CMI or somebody said Rodgers "sucked balls" a couple of different years. It was only in comparison to the high standard they have set over the years. Brady was probably still in the top five or so last season, after (in order) Rodgers, Mahomes, Jackson, Allen - that's about all I can think of, maybe on a par with Wilson, Murray, and a couple others.

Do these comments mean that several of you esteemed posters actually don't agree that Rodgers will play with at least the excellence of Brady to at least the age of Brady? Hey Joe or Bretsky or whoever knows how to do a poll, maybe you ought to do one on that question.

Combine whatever talent and physical ability level that will remain at whatever age with Rodgers' wonderful mindset to not throw interceptions - something which should never go away, and he should be able to go on another decade or more.

[Fritz]

As I've said numerous times, whatever Brady can do, Rodgers can do longer and better.

That's what your mother said, too!