AROD vs BRADY

[Zool]

my point was the natural "fan" reaction is to jump on the Gutetrain and condemn Rodgers for not being here

I was not trying to compare the poll; but I did a poor job in decribing it

You are absolutely projecting that on to anyone who disagrees with you. You’re nearing Tex territory.

[sharpe1027]

my point was the natural "fan" reaction is to jump on the Gutetrain and condemn Rodgers for not being here

I was not trying to compare the poll; but I did a poor job in decribing it

It's almost like you we can't think both are being stupid.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm siding with Tex....cause his wife is hot ))

She says thanks, and I do too. I'm still wondering what "probabalistic" means hahahahaha.

[Upnorth]

She says thanks, and I do too. I'm still wondering what "probabalistic" means hahahahaha.

Probabalistic is when you use a combination of probability and logic to project a certain outcome in the future. It is far from error free as each new time reference going forward introduces the possibility of new errors in the model but for a fixed time point the logic aspect of it helps provide a better framework. My observation is you replace the logic with fandom. Hence nonprobabalistic outcome. The simplyblogic is the exception (brady) isn't the rule (all other qb > age 40)

[Bretsky]

It's almost like you we can't think both are being stupid.

To be honest I think there is plenty of fault along both sides.

[King Friday]

I see very little chance that Rodgers is still playing at a championship level at age 43. Again...in the vast history of the NFL, only 1 guy had accomplished that. He's also the guy who had won more Super Bowls individually in a 20 year career than any franchise has been able to muster over 50 plus.

Brady is an outlier...the GOAT. In terms of physical talent, I believe Rodgers is better, but between the ears NO ONE has what Brady does. His focus and drive to be elite are unmatched. To me, Shailene makes it even less likely that Rodgers will push it to 43. Those two clearly fused almost instantaneously. That will be a distraction to Rodgers moving forward...not necessarily in a bad way, but I think Brady married an equal in terms of drive to compete. Giselle understands where Tom is coming from and supports it fully. I'm not sure the same can be said for a woman who said she never saw herself falling for a guy who throws balls for a living.

[SudsMcBucky]

I see very little chance that Rodgers is still playing at a championship level at age 43. Again...in the vast history of the NFL, only 1 guy had accomplished that. He's also the guy who had won more Super Bowls individually in a 20 year career than any franchise has been able to muster over 50 plus.

Brady is an outlier...the GOAT. In terms of physical talent, I believe Rodgers is better, but between the ears NO ONE has what Brady does. His focus and drive to be elite are unmatched. To me, Shailene makes it even less likely that Rodgers will push it to 43. Those two clearly fused almost instantaneously. That will be a distraction to Rodgers moving forward...not necessarily in a bad way, but I think Brady married an equal in terms of drive to compete. Giselle understands where Tom is coming from and supports it fully. I'm not sure the same can be said for a woman who said she never saw herself falling for a guy who throws balls for a living.

This could end up bad for Rodgers.

https://images.app.goo.gl/v23QNecTqqGwAyWT6

[bobblehead]

I see very little chance that Rodgers is still playing at a championship level at age 43. Again...in the vast history of the NFL, only 1 guy had accomplished that. He's also the guy who had won more Super Bowls individually in a 20 year career than any franchise has been able to muster over 50 plus.

Brady is an outlier...the GOAT. In terms of physical talent, I believe Rodgers is better, but between the ears NO ONE has what Brady does. His focus and drive to be elite are unmatched. To me, Shailene makes it even less likely that Rodgers will push it to 43. Those two clearly fused almost instantaneously. That will be a distraction to Rodgers moving forward...not necessarily in a bad way, but I think Brady married an equal in terms of drive to compete. Giselle understands where Tom is coming from and supports it fully. I'm not sure the same can be said for a woman who said she never saw herself falling for a guy who throws balls for a living.

When fat mike got married and knocked up his hotter younger bride I said I didn't like it. Family and Football don't really mesh too well. I pointed out the failed marriages of many a great coach. There just isn't time or passion enough for both.

I do think Rodgers head is somewhere other than football right now. The more I see, the more I want to trade him. Oh, I still think he will be very good for 2 more years, but add in all the extra drama, and the last 2 playoffs where he refused to dive on a loose ball that he dropped with the center and then refusing to run to the endzone with everything on the line....well, I just think its time to salvage some return and move on even if it means Blake Bortles for a year while Love finishes his under study degree.

[texaspackerbacker]

Gosh, I thought there was a bunch of stupid assuming by know-nothings in the other thread about what's in the head of Rodgers, but this one tops even that. And ya'all know what makes Brady tick too huh? Who knows, maybe all the ignorant speculation is correct - even though it flies in the face of everything the man has ever said and all evidence available.

I guess it's gonna take 6-8 years before I get to say I told you so to the various whiners and panicky people in here. In the short term, though, I'll be saying that when Rodgers is the starting QB for the first regular season game this year. Preseason? Possibly. Training camp? Probably not. But when it happens, I expect a lot of fools to be eating a lot of crow - as I will if it doesn't happen.

[Upnorth]

Gosh, I thought there was a bunch of stupid assuming by know-nothings in the other thread about what's in the head of Rodgers, but this one tops even that. And ya'all know what makes Brady tick too huh? Who knows, maybe all the ignorant speculation is correct - even though it flies in the face of everything the man has ever said and all evidence available.

I guess it's gonna take 6-8 years before I get to say I told you so to the various whiners and panicky people in here. In the short term, though, I'll be saying that when Rodgers is the starting QB for the first regular season game this year. Preseason? Possibly. Training camp? Probably not. But when it happens, I expect a lot of fools to be eating a lot of crow - as I will if it doesn't happen.

As to waiting I believe you can day I told you so in about 5.5 years. I have said I will be amazed if he is quality at 41 so that's my point where I'm wrong.
As to rodgers starting this year I will be suprised if he doesnt

[RashanGary]

80% Rodgers back for training camp with a contract that guarantees him 2 or 3 more years
10% chance he waits till the start of the season if the Packers don’t budge
10% chance he waits for the minimum number of games he needs to play to accrue a season

If he does one of the less probably options, he’ll be traded either this year or next year for much less than we would have gotten. He’s pissed off, stubborn and malcontent. No ones gonna give a kings ransom for him at his age and mental state.

But we’re still looking at a solution to keep him. It’s just going to have to be a little more on Rodgers terms.

[RashanGary]

I’m torn on who to support. Most people accept the systems we live in and play by the rules. Rodgers fights it. I support him fighting it on one level because it’s bullshit and cold, the system is. But we’re all stuck here. A lot of bad things happen when we fight the systems. I guess I’ll always respect him for fighting for a good cause, but I fully expect him to suffer as much as anyone for his fight. He’ll get tore up in the media if he makes too much of a power push. Humanity has a way of fighting for the systems that harm them. I expect that to happen here too.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I'll just add this. One of them is in OTAs trying to do everything he can to win another ring and the other is butt hurt. One is motivated by winning the other wants respect or something.

The channel my inner Iverson, OTA? Are you fucking kidding me? OTA! Not a game. Not even a fucking regular season practice! Fucking OTA!

The Frog’s offense ain’t exactly a doctoral dissertation on Fuckology. It’s jet sweep right; jet sweep left; run right; run left; play-action bomb. The Great Arm of Butte has already mastered the uncomplicated offense.

12 ain’t need to be at some meaningless practices. He ain’t need to kiss management’s ass.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I’m torn on who to support. Most people accept the systems we live in and play by the rules. Rodgers fights it. I support him fighting it on one level because it’s bullshit and cold, the system is. But we’re all stuck here. A lot of bad things happen when we fight the systems. I guess I’ll always respect him for fighting for a good cause, but I fully expect him to suffer as much as anyone for his fight. He’ll get tore up in the media if he makes too much of a power push. Humanity has a way of fighting for the systems that harm them. I expect that to happen here too.

I am 110% pro-12.

[RashanGary]

I am 110% pro-12.

Yeah, makes sense. He’s a person who wants himself and teammates treated with loyalty and respect. It’s not hard to get behind. I’m torn because I don’t know if he’s gonna make a difference and is probably just beating his head on the wall. I don’t know if he’s being at all smart in the sense that there is no good outcome. So I see him as wasting energy trying to fix a world that doesn’t want to be fixed.