Grading the 2018 Packers Draft

[RashanGary]

Jaire Alexander
Good rookie
Ascending possible star 2nd year player
Elite corner

Marquez Valdez Scantling
Limited Big play rookie
Limited Big play 2nd year player
Rounding out his game big play 3rd year

JK Scott/Hunter Bradley
Special teams contribution

Josh Jackson
Bust

Oren Burks
Bust

J’mon Moore
Bust

Cole Madison
Bust

EQ
Below average WR

James Looney
Bust

Kendall Donnerson
Bust



We got an elite corner, a decent WR and some special teams contribution. Thanks to Jaire being an elite player, it gets bumped up to a B draft. Alexander has HOF potential and just changes the complexion of an otherwise bad draft.

[red]

thank god for jaire

i'm nowhere near as high on mvs as most of you, but he's been ok for a 5th rounder. i don't see him as a solid #2 but an OK #3 or 4

its drafts like these that will kill your team

[RashanGary]

thank god for jaire

i'm nowhere near as high on mvs as most of you, but he's been ok for a 5th rounder. i don't see him as a solid #2 but an OK #3 or 4

its drafts like these that will kill your team

Not really. Jaire is a shut down corner. MVS is a nice piece. And the special teams adds something. Jaire makes this draft ok because he’s a really hard piece to find

[call_me_ishmael]

Pretty good draft is 3 solid starters. This draft has 1 very good player and the rest are street free agents. This is an ass draft Alexander aside.

I give this one a C because Alexander is so good and the trade was so damn savvy. Rounds 2-7 are an F.

[run pMc]

MVS is a good pick for a R5. JK Scott had some games where he legitimately flipped the field his rookie year but he's been pretty meh since then.
The R2-4 picks are what hurt this draft. I'd give it a C. If not for Jaire this would be an F. Getting a shutdown corner and a R1 pick in the next draft is pretty good. I'd sure take Jaire over Marcus Davenport, who most were saying would be our pick pre-trade.

[RashanGary]

C makes sense. Seems like consensus is this draft gets a C and the 2019 draft gets an A. Gute is batting a B average on his measurable drafts. He needs to be a little better if we’re gonna win a championship

[call_me_ishmael]

You are jumping the gun again Hoss. We'll see how it goes. How can you judge the GM three years in when the team is largely carried by pissed off HOF qb? Early signs are encouraging for sure. Way too early to be an A in 2019. Looks promising. It could just as easily be that Gary and Safety are not the players we have seen flashes of, though. Guard is a stud either way, though. Keke and Gary have done nothing so far though and are all potential with encouraging signs. I'm very optimistic but we'll see.

[RashanGary]

You are jumping the gun again Hoss. We'll see how it goes. How can you judge the GM three years in when the team is largely carried by pissed off HOF qb? Early signs are encouraging for sure. Way too early to be an A in 2019. Looks promising. It could just as easily be that Gary and Safety are not the players we have seen flashes of, though. Guard is a stud either way, though. Keke and Gary have done nothing so far though and are all potential with encouraging signs. I'm very optimistic but we'll see.

We can’t make judgements just yet, other than the 2018 draft and free agency moves. But Gute is starting to be assessable, more so each year that passes. My gut says he’s been solid so far, but not amazing. He needs to get a little better and we have a chance at a title.

[smuggler]

Pretty good draft is 3 solid starters. This draft has 1 very good player and the rest are street free agents. This is an ass draft Alexander aside.

I give this one a C because Alexander is so good and the trade was so damn savvy. Rounds 2-7 are an F.

You suck at evaluating players. Pick-to-pick, the draft leaves us wanting more, but calling a receiver like MVS a "street free agent" makes you look like a California politician - dumb as fuck.

[call_me_ishmael]

You suck at evaluating players. Pick-to-pick, the draft leaves us wanting more, but calling a receiver like MVS a "street free agent" makes you look like a California politician - dumb as fuck.

I suck at evaluating players? Maybe - I mean I'm not an NFL GM.

MVS is just a guy in my opinion. I'd say that is the Packers opinion as well as he is not a starter and is likely to be the #4 receiver for them this year. Maybe I'm wrong - we shall see. He has ass hands, isn't evasive, and is limited in what he can do as far as routes. He is a #4 or #5 on most teams so far in my opinion aka JAG. What is your evaluation of MVS and why do you believe he is better than a #4 or #5 on most teams?

I guess my view is there are ample MVS's available in the league - at any given time you can find a similar player and put them in and have similar production (yes, there are factors like knowledge of the system, experience with QB, etc etc). I truly don't think there is much difference in output between White Wolf Kumerow and MVS with similar opportunities. In fact, if I were a betting man I would pick WWK but that is a discussion for a different day.

[Joemailman]

I suck at evaluating players? Maybe - I mean I'm not an NFL GM.

MVS is just a guy in my opinion. I'd say that is the Packers opinion as well as he is not a starter and is likely to be the #4 receiver for them this year. Maybe I'm wrong - we shall see. He has ass hands, isn't evasive, and is limited in what he can do as far as routes. He is a #4 or #5 on most teams so far in my opinion aka JAG. What is your evaluation of MVS and why do you believe he is better than a #4 or #5 on most teams?

I guess my view is there are ample MVS's available in the league - at any given time you can find a similar player and put them in and have similar production (yes, there are factors like knowledge of the system, experience with QB, etc etc). I truly don't think there is much difference in output between White Wolf Kumerow and MVS with similar opportunities. In fact, if I were a betting man I would pick WWK but that is a discussion for a different day.

MVS has his faults obviously, but you're off here. His 690 yards receiving were 56th in the NFL and his 6 TD's were 29th. That puts him in low 2nd/high 3rd receiver category. Plus, he stays healthy, as he hasn't missed a game in 3 years. That alone makes him more valuable than injury-prone guys like Lazard, ESB and Funchess. What the stats don't show is the number of underneath throws that are open because teams have to respect MVS' deep speed. He was the 19th WR drafted in 2018. He counts as a minor steal.

[run pMc]

MVS is the 2nd best player in that draft class (for GB). I don't think he's JAG or terrible.
In fact, his contract is up this year, would you want to resign him for, say 2y/$5M? I'd take that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone offered him something closer to $6M/yr.

MVS has had some brutal drops, but he is a legit deep/big play threat, and blocks his ass off -- even in the games where he doesn't get a single target. I don't think he's a 1000 yard receiver, but he's an iffy #2 and very good #3WR who stretches the field. There aren't may 6-4 guys who run like him in the league... and as a Day 3 pick you knew he was a project. Day 3 picks are basically gambles and if you have enough of them you're bound to hit on a few. If Aaron Jones is a home run, MVS is a base hit that might get stretched into a double.

The guy I've been waiting to do something is EQ...I thought he was really good in college, but all he's been in the pros is injured. MVS has shown far more than ESB.

Jaire is a burgeoning star. He and MVS make this draft. The rest are basically gone, end-of-bench depth or ST players. Yes, there's value in having ST demons, you don't want them to be your Day 2 picks. I revise my grade to C+.

[SudsMcBucky]

MVS is the 2nd best player in that draft class (for GB). I don't think he's JAG or terrible.
In fact, his contract is up this year, would you want to resign him for, say 2y/$5M? I'd take that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone offered him something closer to $6M/yr.

MVS has had some brutal drops, but he is a legit deep/big play threat, and blocks his ass off -- even in the games where he doesn't get a single target. I don't think he's a 1000 yard receiver, but he's an iffy #2 and very good #3WR who stretches the field. There aren't may 6-4 guys who run like him in the league... and as a Day 3 pick you knew he was a project. Day 3 picks are basically gambles and if you have enough of them you're bound to hit on a few. If Aaron Jones is a home run, MVS is a base hit that might get stretched into a double.

The guy I've been waiting to do something is EQ...I thought he was really good in college, but all he's been in the pros is injured. MVS has shown far more than ESB.

Jaire is a burgeoning star. He and MVS make this draft. The rest are basically gone, end-of-bench depth or ST players. Yes, there's value in having ST demons, you don't want them to be your Day 2 picks. I revise my grade to C+.

My thoughts on MVS as well. Definitely, at worst, a solid #3. Does he have warts? Yeah, but he does some really good things, as well.

[RashanGary]

It was the first Gute draft. He had moving parts in his personnel department. It landed us a super star corner and a deep threat WR along with some ST contribution.

I EXPECT Gute to improve as he settles into the position.

The Gary/Savage/Elgton/Keke draft shows a lot more promise. And so did Dillon/Deguara/Runyan.

I think Gute is showing enough early to keep him around a little longer and see what we can do.

[smuggler]

MVS will have provided 4 years of production and then return a 4th-ish round comp pick. To get that from a 5th rd pick is outstanding. He'd have been worth a 2nd round pick, probably. Still a sub-par draft, but don't talk shit on MVS.