Official Jordan Love Bandwagon Thread:

[smuggler]

Gannon was an MVP and Boomer Esaison was a damn good player.

[call_me_ishmael]

Just got off the phone with Ozzie Newsome. He disagrees. As does Jim Mcmahon, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, and Nick Foles. I'll throw in Russell Wilson (very over rated). If it wasn't for Tom Brady winning 7 of them since 2003 I could add to that list. Tom is pretty effing good, but honestly its easier when you have the #1 defense every year and play in the AFC East.

Trent Dilfer had a historically good defense. Eli Manning was a very, very good player in his good years - have you forgotten his last name? Flacco also was playing great and was given the biggest contract ever given to a QB after his SB win - showing that he was a top notch QB.

The ones that are successful are outliers. I will die on this hill - if you don't have a top notch QB, you should be moving heaven and earth and cycling through them until you do.

[texaspackerbacker]

All of that is great if you like a flash-in-the-pan/boom or bust team like most of those QBs played on. I prefer a consistent winner like what we've had for going on thirty years with Favre and Rodgers. I'll take that over say for example, 5 or 6 SB winners in 30 years along with 10-20 losing records.

CMI, I agree with your post except the part about Eli, who I never considered more than mediocre.

[scharpcheddar]

Is that they choke in playoffs consistently

[RashanGary]

A picture of Jordan Loves looping motion that Harvey talks about.

12 benefited from that high carriage he had in college. It trained him to have a short throwing motion, almost like throwing darts with little windup. Loves is a little more common.

[Spaulding]

Perfect picture to explain the low carry and subsequent wind up RG.

[Sparkey]

Perfect picture to explain the low carry and subsequent wind up RG.

The picture is a bit deceiving as they are in different parts of the throwing motion. But, yes Rodgers has a more compact throwing motion, but he also has 15+ years of NFL coaching that has changed his throwing motion.

I recall McCarthy talking about Rodgers throwing motion after he was drafted and how they worked on him lowering his arm so that it is a more natural motion.

It will be interesting to watch how Love's throwing motion changes over his career.

[RashanGary]

Favre had a bigger loop than Love does. Probably double or worse. Rodgers had that high carriage coming out and it trained him to shorten his throwing motion. I wonder if college players being taught that would make them better NFL players in the end because it trains a short throwing motion.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre had a bigger loop than Love does. Probably double or worse. Rodgers had that high carriage coming out and it trained him to shorten his throwing motion. I wonder if college players being taught that would make them better NFL players in the end because it trains a short throwing motion.

I disagree. Favre didn’t have a looping throwing motion. And Favre had a quick release.

[RashanGary]

I disagree. Favre didn’t have a looping throwing motion. And Favre had a quick release.

https://youtu.be/WTrFebYfVMY

[RashanGary]

I disagree. Favre didn’t have a looping throwing motion. And Favre had a quick release.

I went and watched some highlights and Favre usually did that low loop when he was trying to throw it hard. But he definitely has a loop on a percentage of his throws. That’s unquestionable.

[RashanGary]

Murphy said he’s not sure if you can win with a star QB at a full market contract. He said Brady was always below full market and Mahommes won on his rookie deal.

We’ve all talked about this. When 20% of your cap is eaten up by one player it’s hard to win championships because it’s hard to field a team around that guy.

[Bretsky]

Murphy said he’s not sure if you can win with a star QB at a full market contract. He said Brady was always below full market and Mahommes won on his rookie deal.

We’ve all talked about this. When 20% of your cap is eaten up by one player it’s hard to win championships because it’s hard to field a team around that guy.

This is why you draft a QB ready to play form the get go and not a developmental QB 3 years too early. If you buy into this theory, you need much of the first contract to get one.

[smuggler]

But drafting the pro-ready player can end up getting you stuck with Derek Carr or Andy Dalton, who never develop into elite players and then limit their teams in other ways. There's no perfect recipe. You just make the best decisions you can in each case while keeping one eye on a loose game plan for the roster at large.

[Sparkey]

This is why you draft a QB ready to play form the get go and not a developmental QB 3 years too early. If you buy into this theory, you need much of the first contract to get one.

And if you only draft a QB if he's ready to play, then you would never draft a guy like Rodgers.