Official Jordan Love Bandwagon Thread:

[bobblehead]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2020/cap-hit/quarterback/

This one is sortable by year. Maholmes was 32nd...YEP YOU READ THAT RIGHT. 32nd in cap hit. Brady was in fact 6th, but that was a different situation. He went to a team that was young and loaded from recent losing seasons. Its not like he was in year 3 of a contract and had just lead the team to 4 straight 12 win seasons.

In 2019 Jimmy G was 15th and Maholmes was 32nd also. So the morale of the story is you can't have a monster cap hit and win the Owl. Watch what happens in 2 years when Maholmes becomes the 2nd or 3rd cap hit. They will begin bleeding talent and still win because he is great, but getting over that hump will become increasingly difficult.

[RashanGary]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings...t/quarterback/

This one is sortable by year. Maholmes was 32nd...YEP YOU READ THAT RIGHT. 32nd in cap hit. Brady was in fact 6th, but that was a different situation. He went to a team that was young and loaded from recent losing seasons. Its not like he was in year 3 of a contract and had just lead the team to 4 straight 12 win seasons.

In 2019 Jimmy G was 15th and Maholmes was 32nd also. So the morale of the story is you can't have a monster cap hit and win the Owl. Watch what happens in 2 years when Maholmes becomes the 2nd or 3rd cap hit. They will begin bleeding talent and still win because he is great, but getting over that hump will become increasingly difficult.

This is the observable truth. Once a QB makes it near the top in salary, his team doesn’t win championships. Those top 5 cap hits hurt.

[Upnorth]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings...t/quarterback/

This one is sortable by year. Maholmes was 32nd...YEP YOU READ THAT RIGHT. 32nd in cap hit. Brady was in fact 6th, but that was a different situation. He went to a team that was young and loaded from recent losing seasons. Its not like he was in year 3 of a contract and had just lead the team to 4 straight 12 win seasons.

In 2019 Jimmy G was 15th and Maholmes was 32nd also. So the morale of the story is you can't have a monster cap hit and win the Owl. Watch what happens in 2 years when Maholmes becomes the 2nd or 3rd cap hit. They will begin bleeding talent and still win because he is great, but getting over that hump will become increasingly difficult.

Not 100% accurate. Brady and manning both won while being top 5 cap hits. So it only really stacks the deck against you. The difference between top 5 and lower is one really good player elsewhere

[RashanGary]

Not 100% accurate. Brady and manning both won while being top 5 cap hits. So it only really stacks the deck against you. The difference between top 5 and lower is one really good player elsewhere

A team can have a top 5 QB hit and be in a stage where they have a bunch of rookie deals else where that put you over the top. Or just do a really good job managing the cap in every other way.

Having a top 5 QB contract doesn’t stop you. It makes you have to be better everywhere else. And once in a while a team will overcome it.

There are no hard rules. It just makes it a little more challenging to have a top paid QB on the books. But obviously having a top QB helps too. So it’s just that balance.

[call_me_ishmael]

67% of super bowls had a qb appear on not cheap contracts in the last 15 years. Not 90%.
So a full 33% had 0 expensive representation and 67% were won by a qb that was relatively cheap.

Not sure where you getting those numbers from but I will double check. Sounds unlikely based on common sense.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings...t/quarterback/

This one is sortable by year. Maholmes was 32nd...YEP YOU READ THAT RIGHT. 32nd in cap hit. Brady was in fact 6th, but that was a different situation. He went to a team that was young and loaded from recent losing seasons. Its not like he was in year 3 of a contract and had just lead the team to 4 straight 12 win seasons.

In 2019 Jimmy G was 15th and Maholmes was 32nd also. So the morale of the story is you can't have a monster cap hit and win the Owl. Watch what happens in 2 years when Maholmes becomes the 2nd or 3rd cap hit. They will begin bleeding talent and still win because he is great, but getting over that hump will become increasingly difficult.

Obviously. I think we’re all saying the same thing essentially. Jimmy G has a big contract though it just so happened the cap hit was small in that particular year. Will be bigger orhe years, all balances out. They have no chance with Jimmy G and they know it. He is a prime example of the type of B or C player you want to avoid at the QB spot. A or move on.org. Relentlessly cycle through them until you have a star. You aren’t likely statistically to win anything meaningful without one.

[call_me_ishmael]

This is the observable truth. Once a QB makes it near the top in salary, his team doesn’t win championships. Those top 5 cap hits hurt.

This is so stupid. Give me a break. For one Brady totally taints the data in that sense. Maybe look at conference championship appearances. Brady will obviously get his. Unquestionably he had an under the table deal with Pats and has it to this day. Unqurstionably and obviously.

[call_me_ishmael]

Having good players at key positions that have far below market rate contracts tends to give you more resources. Obviously.

[RashanGary]

Having good players at key positions that have far below market rate contracts tends to give you more resources. Obviously.

Yep. It’s a lot of variables that go into a championship. Top QB play is good. Top contracts make the rest harder. There are no black lines in this. It’s grey area. Obviously getting a rookie deal player to develop ahead of schedule is a big advantage. Having a top player as the top cap hit is an advantage with an offsetting disadvantage. Ultimately it’s the whole roster and lots of variables.

[RashanGary]

I think you can win with Eli Manning or Aaron Rodgers or even Joe Flacco depending on the rest of the roster. Usually there are about 12 quarterbacks good enough to win it. It comes down to how the whole roster is constructed and then having one of those top 12 guys at QB

[RashanGary]

You can have a top Qb with a top hit like Green Bay and push things into the future and give yourself a good shot right now. Or you can have Lamar on a rookie deal and win. Or you can get Brady on a discount like he likes to do. There are lots of ways and lots of QBs who could win it.

[Fritz]

You can have a top Qb with a top hit like Green Bay and push things into the future and give yourself a good shot right now. Or you can have Lamar on a rookie deal and win. Or you can get Brady on a discount like he likes to do. There are lots of ways and lots of QBs who could win it.

You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Raymond. Or you can call me Jay. Or you can call me Jayson.

Just don't call me late for dinner.

[RashanGary]

All aboard, coming aboard. The Jordan Love bandwagon is about to leave the dock.

[King Friday]

I'm still on board. I think Love has the potential to become a strong starting QB. That doesn't mean he's going to lead us to a win against the Chiefs, but I expect him to play well for his first NFL start.

[Bretsky]

I'm still on board. I think Love has the potential to become a strong starting QB. That doesn't mean he's going to lead us to a win against the Chiefs, but I expect him to play well for his first NFL start.

If Love plays remotely well they should win