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  • Take no heed. Merlin couldn't even be happy when the Packers went to the Super Bowl. http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...ht=#post570733
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • Well he's not completely wrong. Rodgers is a complicated fella after all.
      There were too many RPOs last year, and Rodgers stubbornly let defenses dictate and bait him. Also the important third threat of RPO (the QB run) wasn't a threat.
      He more than occasionally threw deep on 3rd and short, and regularly ignored receivers running free.

      So there are nuggets of on-field truth, and the off field stuff I can live without but it's (usually) tolerable if your QB is MVP or HOF level.

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      • Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

        Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

          Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
          It also makes you punt more.

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          • There's slight uptick in quality, but when we played pickup football after college marching band practice, there was a rocket-armed guy who always wanted to be QB. He'd draw up a play and on every snap would launch it to the furthest receiver downfield. Whenever my side was shorthanded, I would cover two receivers and take the deeper one when they split up. And every dang time, he would throw it right at me.

            Anyway, take that into account with Mr. Chuck It Over The Mountains.
            I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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            • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

              Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.

              Don't recall that happening very often the last year, or even two.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

                Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
                It's not that Rodgers wasn't justified in throwing deep occasionally on short yardage, it's a question of whether he was doing it too often.

                There is certainly a place for an occasional deep throw on short yardage but there's gotta be a point at which you are doing it too much. If he threw half as many deep balls, would that have been enough to keep the defense honest? Probably.

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                • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                  It's not that Rodgers wasn't justified in throwing deep occasionally on short yardage, it's a question of whether he was doing it too often.

                  There is certainly a place for an occasional deep throw on short yardage but there's gotta be a point at which you are doing it too much. If he threw half as many deep balls, would that have been enough to keep the defense honest? Probably.
                  True. Maybe it was too much. But there are some benefits that go beyond the success rate of the plays. It’s probably not as bad as most fans think in the long run and probably not as good as Rodgers thinks either.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • Rodgers last pass as a Packer was an INT deep down the right sideline on a 3-10 play. That was too common an occurrence in recent years. (The decision, not the INT).
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
                      Generally I'm not a fan -- I think you keep moving the chains on a 3rd or 4th and short. On 2nd and short -- absolutely take a shot.

                      It's more of a situational thing for me.
                      If you're inside FG range and you like your matchup, I could see going for a deep shot, but if you're at 3rd and 2 from your own 35, just pick up the first down and keep marching down the field.

                      Throwing deep is a boom-or-bust proposition, and the probability of success is low. Losing Adams hurt Rodgers last year, as did injuries and age.

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                      • I can see doing it once in a while, to keep defenses honest. But in general, I agree with run on this one. How many times were the Packers in a third-and-short, and we were all waving wildly at the TV, yelling "He's open over the middle!" only to watch Rodgers heave what looked like a desperation throw to a pretty-well-covered receiver? Not only that, but many of those throws weren't even close.

                        I also think as others do that Rodgers missed Adams a whole, whole, whole lot. Adams could grab that back-shoulder throw better than anyone I've ever seen, and that includes Jordy Nelson, who was pretty darn good at it.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • I have no clue how well Love will do, but it is rather exciting to start fresh again. Our expectations are down and so should our disappointments, but all and all, I look forward to rooting the Packers to their next SB..

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                          • Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
                            I have no clue how well Love will do, but it is rather exciting to start fresh again. Our expectations are down and so should our disappointments, but all and all, I look forward to rooting the Packers to their next SB..
                            I’m with ya, on this. Low expectations, but I have some hope that Love will be great.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              I’m with ya, on this. Low expectations, but I have some hope that Love will be great.
                              I felt this way when I was seventeen.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                I felt this way when I was seventeen.
                                Did your hopes get dashed, or did you exceed expectations?

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