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  • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    I mean, 3 are defenders so I don't really think that holds a lot of water. The argument that they had the money to spend on D because Rodgers can largely can an O himself is something I would agree with.
    I think you both are too much in awe of Rodgers to be objective. While he could definitely elevate receiver play by throwing catchable balls, he doesn't elevate the blocking when he holds the ball too long or create the holes or broken/missed tackles that Oline and Jones have achieved.

    One guy alone (regardless of being a first ballot HOF) cannot single handedly elevates an eleven man offense. I do agree he can elevate receiver play and morale by being a stud but football is the ultimate team sport for a reason and one player alone can't put a team on his back like basketball or a pitcher in baseball.

    I think Gute has been an exceptional GM so far in the limited body of work, unfortunately it sounds like his communication skills are lacking as are his public speaking skills (Bretsky hit it on the head - no mike for you). I do think you're right though that if Love bombs or is average and Rodgers is gone that he'll only be remembered for this versus anything else he has done or will do.
    Last edited by Spaulding; 08-17-2021, 08:16 AM.
    60% of the time it works every time.

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    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      Arguably, eating up time of possession as well as getting a nice lead and limiting their option to run the ball is a big help to the D.
      Time of possession stems from the offensive line and Aaron Jones running the ball (or whoever totes the rock on the play), not much from Rodgers and any up tempo passing. game. Granted a crucial pass to convert another first down might stem purely from Rodgers ability but it's still really the running game that controls TOP.
      60% of the time it works every time.

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      • Originally posted by Spaulding View Post
        Time of possession stems from the offensive line and Aaron Jones running the ball (or whoever totes the rock on the play), not much from Rodgers and any up tempo passing. game. Granted a crucial pass to convert another first down might stem purely from Rodgers ability but it's still really the running game that controls TOP.
        This makes sense to me. The passing game gets the points to put us in front. The running game closes it out and gives the d a chance to rest while shortening the game.
        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

        George Orwell

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        • has the defense really got a SB push in them? I think it got in their heads last season.

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          • doubt AR is going to have a camera crew follow him around but sure does feel like it.

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            • I'm not sure why they keep mentioning that in the media. What's more, why don't sporadic and over-the-cap help? He earns $20.8 million a year, or around $25 million if you include the signing bonus, but not in the year he got it.

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