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  • #31
    PFF Scoring PS Game 2

    Top 5 offense:

    1. RB Kylin Hill, 91.8
    2. G Jacob Capra, 90.6
    3. G Royce Newman, 78.0
    4. LT Yosh Nijman, 77.7
    5. C Josh Myers, 75.4

    Top 5 defense:

    1. DL Josh Avery, 83.6
    2. DL Jack Heflin, 79.7
    3. DL Kingsley Keke, 71.1
    4. LB Isaiah McDuffie, 69.6
    5. CB Shemar Jean-Charles, 68.7

    Bottom 5 offense:

    1. TE Jace Sternberger, 48.6
    2. RT Coy Cronk, 48.4
    3. RB Patrick Taylor, 48.4
    4. RB Dexter Williams, 42.4
    5. QB Jake Dolegala, 37.5

    Bottom 5 defense:

    1. DL Willington Previlon, 47.0
    2. S Innis Gaines, 40.8
    3. LB Oren Burks, 40.1
    4. LB Kamal Martin, 39.9
    5. S Will Redmond, 33.7

    See below for some context regarding the grades.

    https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lis...-game-vs-jets/

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      An example of a player being able to improve his body whereas an athlete lacking instincts can never change that. (please prove me wrong Burks)
      Some of the best steals in the draft are called marginal physical talents coming out. Some guys are late bloomers and don’t really reach their potential till they’re in the NFL. Other guys come from less than optimal workout programs and have more room to blossom. Other guys maybe were immature and they just have untapped room to grow.

      Assuming a guy is what he is, isn’t always true.

      And some guys maybe developed early and don’t have more upside.

      It’s very hard to predict what a player can become in the NFL. One of many reasons the draft is such a crap shoot.

      And yes, you’re more likely to see physical growth than mental. The mental part is often times, either you have it or you don’t. But there are some cases where the light comes on. Just less of them. Stupid is as stupid does in the nfl.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
        Top 5 offense:

        1. RB Kylin Hill, 91.8
        2. G Jacob Capra, 90.6
        3. G Royce Newman, 78.0
        4. LT Yosh Nijman, 77.7
        5. C Josh Myers, 75.4

        Top 5 defense:

        1. DL Josh Avery, 83.6
        2. DL Jack Heflin, 79.7
        3. DL Kingsley Keke, 71.1
        4. LB Isaiah McDuffie, 69.6
        5. CB Shemar Jean-Charles, 68.7

        Bottom 5 offense:

        1. TE Jace Sternberger, 48.6
        2. RT Coy Cronk, 48.4
        3. RB Patrick Taylor, 48.4
        4. RB Dexter Williams, 42.4
        5. QB Jake Dolegala, 37.5

        Bottom 5 defense:

        1. DL Willington Previlon, 47.0
        2. S Innis Gaines, 40.8
        3. LB Oren Burks, 40.1
        4. LB Kamal Martin, 39.9
        5. S Will Redmond, 33.7

        See below for some context regarding the grades.

        https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lis...-game-vs-jets/
        I wasn't even sure the great Scotsman Isaiah McDuffie had suited up for a game yet. Nor was I sure if Shemale Jean-Claude Van Damme had played yet. Now I know.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #34
          I was kinda down on my boy Yosh after he got Love hurt on a badly whiffed block, but PFF has him grading out high both weeks. I never really focused on him and I didn't notice him other than ONE really bad play. Maybe he has enough to continue the development. Man, he looks and moves the part though. But this is year 3. He really should be pushing for a starting spot by now.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #35
            Wasn't the oline outside of Newman garbage in wk 1? Now 4 of top 5 on o? Anyone see a difference in time to throw or was benkurt quicker on the release in wk2?
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • #36
              Rewatched the game, focusing on some of the fringe guys.

              Jack Heflin hustles like a madman. He was pretty ordinary in the first half--before playing well against the Jets backups. Should be interesting between him and Lancaster. He seems a bit more athletic than Lancaster. I'm interested in watching him this week. Slaton and Heflin may make Lancaster expendable.

              Ben Braden is a mauler, but he does not pass block well at RT. They got a look at him at RT, but I think he's an interior guy only.

              I'd be shocked if Yosh Nijman doesn't make the team. I think I saw one bad play from him--on a run play where he let a DE get around him. He's such an easy mover and has added strength. Bull rushes give him some trouble, but now he's holding up against it (sometimes barely).

              The first team OL was really solid. Nijman, Myers, Newman, and Runyan all played well. Braden was the only one that struggled (mostly on passing plays).

              I've soured on Ento. He is raw and he can't tackle. I don't know if he plays special teams well enough to make the team. Yiadom didn't look like anything worth holding onto at CB or special teams. The Packers may be on the lookout for a backup CB after cutdowns.

              All of the RBs ran well. The only negative was Taylor's fumble. I can't see them keeping 4, but I think Taylor and Williams are both worthy of a PS spot.

              Kamal Martin was lost in coverage. TE Daniel Crawford was awful. It was pretty obvious why both guys got cut.

              Christian Uphoff really flashed on special teams, but Innes Gaines impressed me more at safety. I'm not sure how good he is on special teams. If he's solid, he could make the team.

              Not sure what to make of Isaiah McDuffie. He's light in the pants and isn't uber athletic. Made some plays though. He'll have to perform well on special teams.

              Lucas Patrick was okay. He started off poorly before hitting his stride. Cole Van Lanen struggled in this game.

              I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Benkert making the roster. There are worse backups in the league, and they may need a backup next year. I think there's a decent chance he'd get claimed--after watching a few other games tonight.

              Wish I had made my projections after rewatching the game more closely.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #37
                I got to rewatch it on NFL net. I watched Yosh a lot. He has really gotten better with positioning his body (footwork) and squaring up. Now to complete the deal he needs to work on his punch. That is how you keep a bull rusher off you. If he gets it down then his mass will do the rest of the job. He can be a functional back up tackle, but I wonder if he can play the right side. Our LT is locked up for a decade between Bak and Jenkins. Since he was very raw and they have worked hard to develop him as LT, I'm not sure he can.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #38
                  To another point you make Harv, I agree on Braden. Given the talent along the OL, I would like to see Jenkins become a tackle permanently. They are very deep on the interior.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    To another point you make Harv, I agree on Braden. Given the talent along the OL, I would like to see Jenkins become a tackle permanently. They are very deep on the interior.
                    If Jenkins is as good as he appears to be, and if the Packers have a deep interior line, then it's worth just declaring Jenkins the starting left tackle until Bakh gets back, then moving him over to the right side. He's better than Turner, who can then be a backup or move back to RG.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #40
                      I don't want Jenkins to stay at Tackle based on last year's performance. He was great at LG, and only moderately good at Tackle. Unless he makes a huge step forward, at Tackle, keep him at Guard. The way the Packers run mostly inside zone and with Rodgers' mobility making pass blocking by Tackles less of a factor, Guard is a more important position than Tackle. I wouldn't even change Jenkins to Tackle while Bakhtiari is out, but I guess that is a done deal.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        I don't want Jenkins to stay at Tackle based on last year's performance. He was great at LG, and only moderately good at Tackle. Unless he makes a huge step forward, at Tackle, keep him at Guard. The way the Packers run mostly inside zone and with Rodgers' mobility making pass blocking by Tackles less of a factor, Guard is a more important position than Tackle. I wouldn't even change Jenkins to Tackle while Bakhtiari is out, but I guess that is a done deal.
                        We have the MVP qb and you think guard is more important than tackle? I do not want to see love on the field this season except maybe in blow outs. Best way to make that happen is a pair of great tackles.
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • #42
                          Hell Yeah! Rodgers has played basically his whole career using his mobility to get away from outside pass rushes. My p.o.v., which I know many in here disagree with, is that we literally never had great OTs - Bakhtiari being greatly overrated. Last year, we FINALLY had interior linemen and a quick burst kind of back to allow for a lot of inside zone runs. Also, the few rare times there has been a big pass rush in the inside gaps, even Rodgers has a hard time getting away from it.
                          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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