Gado traded

[Fritz]

Well, hell, it gives us something to talk about. Takes your mind off the depth chart at right tackle, y'know.

I don't mind. Two kick returners is better than no kick returners, which is what the Pack had before. And if Robinson is suspended, this is a good back up plan so you've got at least one guy back there who knows how to get to the twenty.

Now who else can we pawn off on Shermy? Not many of his draft picks left here, so that'll be tough...

[woodbuck27]

Comments from Houston Texan Fans Re: the Morency for Gado trade:

** This guy can pound the ball and he is a between the tackles kind of runner, I think he will require less work as a project than Morency for Kubiak... Big problem is he fumbles way to often. But he is explosive

** I was led to believe few of the coaches liked him...so much for that tripe I guess. Our first day pick for an UFA? If Morency blows up in GB I'm gonna be ill.

** seams like an good move to me. He runs a 4.47 40, with some power. After his football days are over, he says that he want to be a doctor.

Here is a nice article on Gado http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=489603

In the article it talks about why the new coaching staff is down on Gado. Green Bay is switching to a zone blocking system and Gado is not picking it up well.

** I thought Morency was coming along very well. I would have started him and I don't get this at all. I guess anyone who wasn't chosen by this regime, other than Carr, AJ, and Robinson, is hanging on by a thread. I don't know anything about this GB guy, except that he's a UFA from Sherman's old team.

Well, now in 3 days we've been beaten badly in game 1 and lost the guy who I thought was our best (remaining anyway) RB. All I can do is throw up my hands and wonder why.

** This is a stupid trade! A third rounder for a UFA with no compensation!?!?!?!

** Is this true or some kind of sick early April Fool's joke? What? Huh? Someone tell me this is a nightmare? Gado for Morency? I just threw up a little in my mouth. Morency was hands down our best back in preseason, WTH????

** Gado started 5 games last season and sure got the job done, but how could we trade our best back for this guy??????????? I have trusted most decisions made by Kubaik and Co. up to this point, but if this is true I think I am gonna cry.

* Green Bay message boards reporting the same thing.They feel THEY are getting the raw deal.We'll see, I like Gado, I like Morency also.Any good confirmation yet?

* The reason we can trade our best back is because Lundy maybe a little worse if I want to be negative. Lundy is not a huge drop off from Morency, so at the worst possible scenario where Gado is horrible, it won't hurt us that bad. But yes, like I said before, the Packers fans are upset at trading Gado. They've seen him play more than we have, so they know what they've lost. And so do we with Morency. That's why we both feel we got screwed. It's a pretty even trade if you ask me, but Samkon has played in more games and has done more than Morency has. It's not like Morency went out there and had a 100 yard game and we traded him.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2872

* Oh please let this be true. Sam. Gado is awsome. I was watching the very first game he played in last year and he was awsome. The guy came from Liberty, and he just figured he would try the NFL and see what happend, just trying to find money for Med. School. He played awsome for the Packers and put up huge numbers before he was injured. We have a guy in the backfield who can move! He hits the hole fast and hard and can stretch the field. Great move if it is true. I can not believe GB let him go, he was a fan favorite big time!

* Yes, Gado is a beast.

* OMG it is true!!!!! LOL GB are suckers!!!!

* Dude you have no clue what you are talking about! Its o.k., but before you bash the guy, could you please tell me the last time Morency was NFL rookie of the month???????? In fact Gado was consistant 100 yrd a game back week in week out before his injury, and being the (third back) not #4!!! with HMMMMM Ahman Green, and Noah Harron is not that bad. You have no clue what you are talking about but hey, go ahead freedom of speech and everything. VENT YOU ANGER BUDDY!!!

* His upside is much higher than Morency.

In his 8 games last year on a craptastic team he gained 171 yds on 29 carries, which is better than DD's best game.

He's from the Okoye mold. I'm happy we now have a back that will punish whoever tries to tackle him

* One thing for sure, this coaching staff is not afraid to make changes to get the job done. Straight up trade if you ask me. Winner goes to the back with the most heart. Gado has shown some heart. I don't care who carries the ball, just move it down the field and put it in the endzone.

* The coaches are getting rid of players that they dont like and are getting ones that they are familiar with. This is an important step in creating the propar chemistry on the team. Kubiak and Sherman know what winning teams are like and this is part of the process.

* Gado is way faster and stronger than Morency! We came out smelling like a rose on this move

* Quit comparing where Gado and Morency were drafted. That doesn't matter anymore.

Is Joey Harrington better than Tom Brady, because Harrington was the #3 overall pick and Brady was a second day pick? Of course not.

Gado has proven more in the league than Morency has. Go back and watch his game last year against Atlanta, where he absolutely destroyed. If Gado can't run the ball in Houston, it will be entirely because of our o-line talent and our run-bocking scheme. Because he can run. Yeah, he fumbled the ball, but he was a rookie. Lots of rookie RBs fumble.

I like this trade ALOT.

* DD in 4 years hasn't been able to break a run longer than Gado did in 8 games. We need to face the facts DD is done. Gado at 23 is a damn good back to have in years to come.

* The last couple of transactions look like we are trying to fix our KO return problem... Buc and Roc got hurt.. That leaves the backs to do the honors. Is it possible he could fill those shoes? Maybe Morencey can't field Kickoffs.

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MdarTD8Tp8

GB thought it was smart to hire the Offensive Coord. for the 49'ers as a head coach. Trying to make sense of that organization will drive a person crazy.

* I went to a Packer fan base web site to read what their fans think and the majority of the fans are p/o that he was gone. A lot of the fans did not believe it. One fan said he checked our web site and said the confermation was legit. Then the fans started off on Sherman loving Gado and how Gado does not really fit their new current offensive scheme.

* Quote:
Originally Posted by jdog

"Is this because of Morency's performance against the Eagles because I don't think Gado or Tomlinson would have helped our running game last week."

I think it was more of Morency's inability to adjust to the zone running style. I heard about it a few times this pre-season, about how he was dancing around instead of one cut and run.

* That was quick...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernand_Morency

Vernand Morency (born February 4, 1980 in Miami, Florida) is an American football running back currently playing for the Green Bay Packers of the NFL.

* Gado steps in as the fastest running back in Texans History LOL! He also steps in as probably the most intelligent Houston Texan in our history. One thing is for sure, we have a guy that will have no problem memorizing the play book!

* Quote:
Originally Posted by dantem

" The last couple of transactions look like we are trying to fix our KO return problem... Buc and Roc got hurt.. That leaves the backs to do the honors. Is it possible he could fill those shoes? Maybe Morencey can't field Kickoffs.'

Sorry to quote myself but I wanted to add to this..

Morencey is our first string Kick return Guy and we are down to him and Edell Shepherd.

* Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Mario

" I think it was more of Morency's inability to adjust to the zone running style. I heard about it a few times this pre-season, about how he was dancing around instead of one cut and run ".

I don't think thats what it was...I don't think they saw him as a full time back...I don't think they thought he was the type of back you could give the ball to 20+ times, and with a rookie, and aging veteran in Dayne we needed that middle of the road guy that we feel like we can depend on...I heard he is coming off of an injury...not sure how severe of an injury it was, but obviously the coaches feel like he's fully healed and ready to go...

* I think this guy played in a nationaly televised game last year. The name is
so unusual and I remember the fuss about him. He broke a real long run in that game ? The Pack was playing someone in their divison as I recall ?
Is this a statement that the Packers don't like Gado that much, or they really see something in Morency and are willing to part with value for a prospect ?
I thought Morency was very impressive in preseason, way superior to Lundy.

* This is a pretty good trade for you guys. You get another young running back who has proven what he can do in the league. He played well last year in the absence of Ahman Green and Davenport. He basically carried the whole rushing load for the Packers on a bad team. Once you get your run blocking scheme down he may challenge Wali Lundy for the starting spot if Lundy keeps running like he did on Sunday.

* Morency started one game, Gado started five games.

* People on these boards seriously need to get over where these guys were drafted, because it's irrevelent. The only thing that matters is their talent and their potential. I'm personally very excited about this trade because I saw Gado play last year and he performed quite well, and I feel that he's proven more at this point.

* " But Gado has struggled to adjust to the zone-blocking scheme being run by new Packers coach Mike McCarthy."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2586476

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ESPNs take is that the Gado has struggled in the ZB in GB.

Guess the ESPN guy doesn't realize we also run the ZB, or he would find some irony in his own remark.

Management probably has him working full time on Reggie Bush propaganda, so doesn't have time to learn about other backs in the league.

Nigerian guy gonna like this climate, and Morency (I think from Texas), gonna have to invest in some long johns.

* Last year GB's head coach was SF's Off Coord.

Pendry's offense outgained his by almost 500 yds.

* Gado has power and speed. Morency might be more polished but he's not got that second gear that you need in a one-cut system.
see the hole, BANG, there goes Gado... just watch that youtube link...

i think both teams did ok here. but the packers fans seem more upset to lose gado than we seem to lose morency, FWIW.

* Gado produced in those games, against decent teams. If he didnt fumble, he would look better.

Morency, not being his fault, only against that one team, but I remember them being in the running for Bush so they werent all that good.

Morency could be a good back, but Gado has a better resume.

* . . . Morency has never been given a real shot by this team under two regimes.

* It don't matter what runningbacks the Texans have. It all start up front, the O-Line.

If the O-Line play like last week game Lundy, Dayne and Gado going to put up 70 yards combine.

and. . . I'll stop right thee.

Good Bye Samkon.... Mr. GADO.

GADO...Great name for " a James BOND Book Character".

[ND72]

Not gonna lie, i'm excited about this trade. I've said for a long time, Gado doesn't fit what we're doing anymore. He's a bad kick returner, and an average running back. Morency is a kid who honestly has a lot MORE potential than Gado has. And he ran in OSU's zone offense when he was there, as opposed to being taken out for a zone play in Gado.

[BananaMan]

When I read the headline at Packers.com of "Packers aquire RB Morency" at first I thought it was the Maroney rookie from the Pats, but then I realized he was the Texans guy. My next feeling was of joy, because I watched him play this preseason and he looked REALLY, REALLY good.

Then I saw that they traded Samkon.

This sums it all up:

cry:

I'm going to miss you Samkon. Nicest guy I've ever met. I hope you dominate with the Texans.

I like Morency A LOT but man... this is hard to swallow.

[Ballboy]

I really don't care too much about the trade.......however it seems to me that this is a your third string for our third string at the exact same position.


Why?

You trade to upgrade your team, this guy couldn't beat out a rookie! I would guess as it has been said in the post that Houston runs the same blocking as us?!!

Would rather have had a OL/FB or DE.

[xxmattsharpxx]

This trade has me excited for the first time in weeks. Since I live in Oklahoma, I had a chance to see this guy play in college quite a bit. If Oklahoma University didn't have a certain Heisman runner up in 2004 (Adrain Peterson), Vernand Morency would have been the biggest running back name in Oklahoma. He had a nice burst of quickness and some power when hitting the hole. He had 3 games in a row in college rushing for over 200 yards!!! All in all, a MUCH bigger upside than Gado...

Like somebody said before, he probably ticked off some coaches last year for being lazy or something.

[Kiwon]

Samkon was a great feel-good story and one of the few bright spots last year, but it sounds like the ZBS wasn't a good fit.

Anyway, Samkon's smart enough to already focus on life after football. Houston's got world-class M.D. Anderson hospital there and hopefully he will be able to make some good contacts that can further his dream to become a doctor.

God bless him.

[woodbuck27]

My take on this trade:

Morency wasn't popular with the Coach's in Houston.Treat that as Rumor at this time,please.

He also wasn't the guy they wanted in their ZBS; and after a decent preseason for Morency (his attitude wasn't going to cut it??) so the Coach's decided to go with the #2 RB Wali Lundy to start the season.

Now ...we have Morency and attitude? ... and "a man with alot of pull in Houston- Mike Sherman - saw an oportunity to bring in an intelligent, hard working faster, hard running - outstanding Rookie RB (Samkon Gado... who had fallen out of favor in Green Bay, with what seemed like a lack of confidence, mmmmm, and reports that he... just wasn't getting OUR ZBS.

Because he wasn't getting comfortable with OUR ZBS - despite the fact that in both Franchises - the OL is weak) Sherman swung the Texans to deal for Samkon Gado. Better Resume in the NFL and a crack attitude and skills above Morency's (Samkon Gado, stronger and faster and very intelligent)People here will get all excited, because Morency was a first day 3rd rounder in 2004 Vs. an Undrafted FA from a small College "Liberty" and that is irrelevanrt.

The relevant question to ask OURSELVES RE: the TRADE is:

Who has showed up BEST to date in the NFL between these two RB's? Who has the BEST NFL Resume?

Well that would be the fella we traded. . for the fella that hasn't showed up except in ONE NFL Game against some also ran NFL Team.

SAMKON GADO has the BEST NFL Resume. . yet Ted thompson trades him for the RB with a possible attitude ,an equal difficulty fitting their ZBS and he's an inferior athlete to gado as well.Houston fans report that gado is faster and stronger although I saw a short video of Morency and he reminded me of a famous RB who can really hit a defender.

It also appears that (maybe attitude was the reason ) but Morency didn't get a decent shot in Houston.

In the preliminary assessment of any trade. Common sense dictates that you don't compare these two RB's size of College program : results in their respective College Careers and NFL Draft status as a primary factor of weighing in on the trade as to which side got the BEST Value. Maybe it was a straight up fair or equal trade? You have to weigh alot to establish who won.

You look at their results in NFL game action as a PRIMARY assessment.

Samkon GADO did it better than Morency has to date in NFL Games and he started more games.What was it? Five to one . . GADO???.

Did Samkon try hard and did he have a solid attitude? YES !!

Coach's in Texas didn't like Morency according to fans, that seem to have the REAL scoop in my experience. Support for that... is what Texan fans have to report on Morency's solid preseason game results and recognized by them over Lundy's performance... .yet lundy becomes #1 RB to start the season.

If he was a solid guy would they trade him? NO !

In that aspect of analysing this trade Sherman sells them on an alternative to Morency's attitude.. with a RB that is intelligrent and all heart . . Samkon Gado.

Some will say that Morency can return KO's, but he only did so in 2004 and we just signed "the man for that anyway, in Koren Robinson" a fella that made the Pro Bowl in that ST area and can also return punts as well.

So why did Ted thompson make this trade?

I don't need to tell you.

Today, Ted Thompson (in a preliminary analysis... made a bad trade as I review it.

The Houston Texans have to be estatic.

[Bretsky]

All emotions aside, Gado stunk this year. So we got something for a guy who was having too hard of a time adjusting to our system to contribute.
I'm not excited about it, but I do think we gained a heck of a lot more potential help than we were going to get.

[MJZiggy]

I still don't get how this helps Samkon. He's going from a ZBS that he had trouble picking up, to a ZBS. Unless they're going to change their blocking scheme, he'll have the same kind of trouble there that he had here--especially if they think he's gonna run back kicks, etc. I am so gonna miss him.

[woodbuck27]

All emotions aside, Gado stunk this year. So we got something for a guy who was having too hard of a time adjusting to our system to contribute.
I'm not excited about it, but I do think we gained a heck of a lot more potential help than we were going to get.

FOR the first time B. I must disagree with you.

Who here will admit, that just maybe, the reason that Gado never got on track this Off Season was because the ZBS isn't working in Green Bay to date.

OUR OL is very bad,B. Even Tauscher and Clifton look ordinary to bad.They are already burning out.

In Houston the OL is also Bad. If the OL is bad few RB's will look comfortable more less thrive.

Ahman Green had an extraordinary game in a losing cause against a really tough BEAR "D" for reasons that are unusual to me, except that he's an awesome RB with skills and experience.

We lost this trade.

[GBRulz]

I'm def going to miss Gado. He was one of the few bright spots about last season. But, that was last season and we must move on and just wish him well.

I am not sure how good the Texas OL is, but I'm sure it's an improvement over what he has here.

Good luck Samkon

[Partial]

This trade has me excited for the first time in weeks. Since I live in Oklahoma, I had a chance to see this guy play in college quite a bit. If Oklahoma University didn't have a certain Heisman runner up in 2004 (Adrain Peterson), Vernand Morency would have been the biggest running back name in Oklahoma. He had a nice burst of quickness and some power when hitting the hole. He had 3 games in a row in college rushing for over 200 yards!!! All in all, a MUCH bigger upside than Gado...

Like somebody said before, he probably ticked off some coaches last year for being lazy or something.

Welcome to the board cowboy!

[ahaha]

Somebody got screwed in this deal. Two young prospects swapped for each other. Both teams have problems on the offensive line, and both new to the ZBS. My guess is both teams got screwed. They pawned off their mediocrity for ours.

[woodbuck27]

I still don't get how this helps Samkon. He's going from a ZBS that he had trouble picking up, to a ZBS. Unless they're going to change their blocking scheme, he'll have the same kind of trouble there that he had here--especially if they think he's gonna run back kicks, etc. I am so gonna miss him.

I am absolutely amazed at how posters here will just sweep it all under the mat.

I will be watching this trade very closely and reminding this board, just how well Samkon is doing in Houston in their ZBS that leaves alot to be desired behind a (reported by Texan Fans) a weak OL.

If Morency had an attitude that Hoston Team Coach's didn't approve of? The question I have is why? Listen closely to TT's media release on this RB Morency.Did he know a whole lot about him,MJ?

I know the answer to that question according to sourse.

Was Morency given a decnt shot? NO he wasn't according to Houston fans. Gado was given that by TT and Sherman and he did very well under a conventional OL scheme.

Would he have ever got it in Green Bay? We'll never know now,will we? He'll sure get a chance to see if he can do it elsewhere though.

GOOD LUCK Samkon.