Week 3 meaningless game Vs. Bills (unless you are on the bubble)

[King Friday]

I agree that the only thing holding Love back right now is between the ears. Time will tell whether that is merely a result of the learning curve or a true weakness of his. By most accounts, he is putting in the work and showing steady improvement. Saturday was only the second live game he's played in over a year and a half. Josh Allen looked very similar to Love in his first year plus in the league...and you saw what he looks like now. Allen to me is a very similar comparison to Love...tons of physical talent, but had a steep learning curve due to the lack of playing against elite talent in college. It took Allen awhile to get his bearings, but he's well on his way to being a top 5 QB in the league.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Love is lucky enough to get one more season behind Rodgers, and then gets thrown into the fire next year…. Nothing is more ideal for a young QB. Same offense in his third year. Rodgers is breaking in the two rookie OL this year. Next year we go in with Bakh, Jenkins, Meyers, Newman and Turner. Hell yeah, love is in a great situation. I don’t expect him to win 13 games but I do expect him to show promise right away. He’s been lucky enough to already have that Rodgers cadence to play with. He’s already getting guys offsides with it.

In an ideal world, I think we keep Tonyan, Lazard and MVS so Love has some long term veterans pieces to throw to. And then draft another one somewhat high.

Jones and Dillon are nice pieces for Love to start out with.

And Deguara and Tonyan.

Love is walking into one of the most ideal young QB situations in recent history. I’m not saying he needs to play like a savvy vet, but if he doesn’t look solid like Rodgers did early in his career, I’ll be disappointed.

Yeah, maybe, but that's not really the point. If it's a good situation for him, it's just as good a situation for _____ (fill in the blank) - any mediocre QB we could grab. It would also be an ideal situation for an aging nearly and then over 40 superstar QB who (theoretically) is gonna start to fade at some point in a few years.

What do you suppose would be the reaction of the Packer brain trust if tomorrow, some team called up and inquired about a trade of a moderately high draft pick for Love?

[Bretsky]

Yeah, maybe, but that's not really the point. If it's a good situation for him, it's just as good a situation for _____ (fill in the blank) - any mediocre QB we could grab. It would also be an ideal situation for an aging nearly and then over 40 superstar QB who (theoretically) is gonna start to fade at some point in a few years.

What do you suppose would be the reaction of the Packer brain trust if tomorrow, some team called up and inquired about a trade of a moderately high draft pick for Love?

TEX TEX TEX; The Love Machine is Gutebag's boy ))) He'd turn down the inquiry and to be quite honest what could we maybe get for him...a 3rd ?

To answer your question, you could fill in your blank above with last year's backup QB and keep the same statement.

[RashanGary]

Love is obviously the highest upside, best prospect we’re gonna get in a while. Remember, Gute did not have to take a QB in 2020. He chose to move up in the first round to take a QB when he already had one. There was no desperation. He’s a top tier prospect.

So I’m always gonna look at the situation he’s in. By the time he would start, he’d be in his third year in the same offense. No other QB in the league is going to be in the third year of MLFs offense next year.

He’ll have a vet OL that Rodgers broke in for him

Rodgers took favres cadence and improved it. Now love gets a 30 year evolved cadence handed to him.

Specifically, Love is in a great situation. What separates love from everyone else is the upside. What makes it exciting is Love specifically being that guy.

Jordan love is in the one QB who’s in the best QB position in the league and the pay drop from Rodgers will Insure the team around him stays good.

[Fritz]

Tex, the D was playing vanilla against Josh frickin Allen. You can only judge individual efforts.

Yes, Love was much better than Benkert given who he was playing against and with.

I agree with your OL assessment. Braden might have played himself off the roster to be honest.

It sounds like Van Lannen might have beaten out Braden for a spot, and it sounds like Hanson played his way off the roster and so Lucas Patrick will be in as the backup center.

[RashanGary]

It sounds like Van Lannen might have beaten out Braden for a spot, and it sounds like Hanson played his way off the roster and so Lucas Patrick will be in as the backup center.

From LT (Jenkins) all the way across the board to Turner (RT) we have either rookies, first year starters (Runyan) or position switches. The OL is going to be below average. That’s a bet.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Nope. I can't stand Rand though I might have a philosophy book coming out soon debunking some of the idols of philosophy. Rand is a 3rd rate philosopher & writer and doesn't make the cut.

I am just having fun. Actually I feel pretty good about Love & Kurt going forward. One of them might be above average; and they should do ok in Lafleur's system.

Enjoy the last dance.

So are you or are you not an alter ego of “mraynrand”? Swear to Providence.

[Bretsky]

Love is obviously the highest upside, best prospect we’re gonna get in a while. Remember, Gute did not have to take a QB in 2020. He chose to move up in the first round to take a QB when he already had one. There was no desperation. He’s a top tier prospect.

Jordan love is in the one QB who’s in the best QB position in the league and the pay drop from Rodgers will Insure the team around him stays good.

Not at all true; the Packers trade up to pick 20 or 21 to get Love. You can do that in a lot of years. He may be the best prospect we have today; but we could get something very similar within 2 years of the times Rodgers leaves...... no matter where Jordan Love is. Unless you think he's really that elite. If you look at the past two years of 1st RB QB's I'd put him in the middle to bottom half of the group

I'd agree he's in the best QB position of the league because he has the most talent around him. You'd be saying the same thing about whoever our backup QB is

[RashanGary]

Not at all true; the Packers trade up to pick 20 or 21 to get Love. You can do that in a lot of years. He may be the best prospect we have today; but we could get something very similar within 2 years of the times Rodgers leaves...... no matter where Jordan Love is. Unless you think he's really that elite. If you look at the past two years of 1st RB QB's I'd put him in the middle to bottom half of the group

I'd agree he's in the best QB position of the league because he has the most talent around him. You'd be saying the same thing about whoever our backup QB is

I would be much less excited about Tim Boyle.

[Fritz]

Not at all true; the Packers trade up to pick 20 or 21 to get Love. You can do that in a lot of years. He may be the best prospect we have today; but we could get something very similar within 2 years of the times Rodgers leaves...... no matter where Jordan Love is. Unless you think he's really that elite. If you look at the past two years of 1st RB QB's I'd put him in the middle to bottom half of the group

I'd agree he's in the best QB position of the league because he has the most talent around him. You'd be saying the same thing about whoever our backup QB is

You think that, yes, but nobody knows that. If Love turns out to be a very good starter you'll be wrong, as picking where the Packers usually do does not result in being able to trade up enough to get "something very similar" to a very good QB. If Love turns out to be average, you're closer to the mark. Even then, though, QB's are in such demand that even marginally promising guys often go pretty high. Like Brady Quinn.

[smuggler]

Although Love was picked in the early 20s, he was a top-15 talent, which is why it was a bargain to trade up and take him... We have a player like that on the roster in Gary. Savage and Alexander are just past that range. He's a great developmental piece that helps us compete in case QB1 goes down.

[smuggler]

The Colts are really hurting right now because we got Love and they had to trade for the Wentz.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It sounds like Van Lannen might have beaten out Braden for a spot, and it sounds like Hanson played his way off the roster and so Lucas Patrick will be in as the backup center.

I thought CVL really struggled in the two games I watched. Braden was better, but I don’t think he’s an OT. It will be all about potential at that spot though—like carrying Nijman last year.

[Fritz]

I thought CVL really struggled in the two games I watched. Braden was better, but I don’t think he’s an OT. It will be all about potential at that spot though—like carrying Nijman last year.

Well, you actually watched so you know better. So - do you think Nijman will be picked to stay on the 53 as a backup tackle at the expense of CVL and/or Braden?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well, you actually watched so you know better. So - do you think Nijman will be picked to stay on the 53 as a backup tackle at the expense of CVL and/or Braden?

I’d easily take Nijman over those two.