More Banjo - Packers vs. 49ers

[Joemailman]

Looks like Shanahan didn't want to talk about it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1442331375403769860

[smuggler]

He was salty because if they swapped QBs, the 49ers win going away, but LaFleur told him to fuck off.

[Jaire]

Think about it.

FOUR of our starters on OL have combined fewer than TEN starts. Just a phenomenal job against one of the best front fours in the NFL. Also, MLF's post game revealed what they did better/ different than in 2019. Something I complained a lot about with McCarthy but seems pretty elementary.

This is the game of the season and will fuel this team the rest the way. Signature win (and both teams really battled). Also, it was great to see Rodgers getting the ball out quickly: very important for the success of the young OL in this game.

[Upnorth]

Think about it.

FOUR of our starters on OL have combined fewer than TEN starts. Just a phenomenal job against one of the best front fours in the NFL. Also, MLF's post game revealed what they did better/ different than in 2019. Something I complained a lot about with McCarthy but seems pretty elementary.

This is the game of the season and will fuel this team the rest the way. Signature win (and both teams really battled). Also, it was great to see Rodgers getting the ball out quickly: very important for the success of the young OL in this game.

This 9ers team is not as good as the 2019 9ers. But still good. I'm thinking rams vrs us in nfccg. Heck of a battle if our oline and their d line are uninjured

[George Cumby]

Props to OL Coach.

[texaspackerbacker]

I said it before and I'll say it again, O Line just isn't that big a factor. In the case of the Packers, the O Line's goodness is magnified by Aaron Rodgers' mobility and Aaron Jones' burst and shiftiness. In the case of the Niners, I believe the commentator said 4 of 5 first round draft picks, the not too great Packers D Line shut down their run game due to injured RBs (where did you hear it first that would happen?) and kept Garoppolo - who played fairly decent - from winning the game.

This is indeed a great team win, but it also is just another example of Aaron Rodgers the GOAT dominating the game and beating a good opponent (not to mention the damned officials).

[run pMc]

I don't blame 49ers for asking about Rodgers. Dude all but asked for a trade on draft day; it'd be dumb NOT to inquire about an MVP QB.

As for this game, random thoughts:

Njiman struggled against Bosa 1-1, but everyone does. Overall he held up pretty well, and I think as the game went on MLF gave him some help blocking on that side, and also tried to keep his assignments easy. Pretty impressive recovery after the 1st series where Bosa was disruptive.
Eric Stokes got an education. He's very green so I'm taking the good with the bad and hope he's a fast learner. Had a few DammitStokes moments last night though.
Josh Myers is pretty good for a rookie. Newman isn't there yet. These guys could be good with a full offseason and an NFL weight room.
The QB had a good game. There were times where he's just throwing "tryna get a PI call" passes that I question are even catchable. Threw some absolute darts though and was very effective. Had a good game plan of getting the ball out fast against a good defense.
Davante was a killer last night, picked on a depleted secondary that played less 2-shell (in 1st half) than I expected. The hit from Jimmy Ward should have been a flag; takes a lot to get back in the game and catch some crucial throws after a hit like that.
Jones and Dillon kept churning yards, nothing too fancy there but eliminating a TOP advantage for the Niners and keeping their DL honest can't hurt.

Getting out to a 17-0 start was unexpected and pleasant surprise, and helped them defensively. Giving up that long KO return and TD at end of 1st half was ugly though.
Berry seemed to use more pressure that prior games; maybe MLF doesn't need to tell him twice. Mixed zone and man up ok, JimmyG was not very sharp to start but they adjusted and made a game of it. Kenny Clark, Gary and Preston did well.
The ILBs are going to see mistakes made (biting on fakes, not dropping properly in coverage) when they review the film. I think they were likely cheating toward Kittle/Juszczyk. Henry Black also took some false steps that hurt.
OK with going for it on 4th down, but that play was ugly.

Big win, could go a long way for them if it doesn't go their heads. PIT is good but GB can beat them if they bring their A game.

[bobblehead]

The thing about Nijman, and this goes to something I harped on fat mike about for a decade. We ran the ball. We ran it right at Bosa at times. Early when Bosa was fresh Nijman needed help and was not great. As the game went on and Bosa constantly had a 335 lb man imposing his will on him in the run game Nijman needed less help. Bosa wore down. And no tex, Rodgers is not Jesus himself, he needs protection. If you don't believe me go back and watch the 2017 and 2018 seasons.

[King Friday]

The kids on the OL played incredibly well considering their level of experience both in the league and in playing with each other. The potential of this OL being incredibly elite come December just took a big step forward.

You only have to look at Stafford and Goff to realize how important OL play is to QB success. Goff was a good QB in LA, but now looks bad. Stafford was a very good QB in Detroit who now looks like an MVP.

[George Cumby]

Oren Burks got credit of half a sack.

[texaspackerbacker]

The thing about Nijman, and this goes to something I harped on fat mike about for a decade. We ran the ball. We ran it right at Bosa at times. Early when Bosa was fresh Nijman needed help and was not great. As the game went on and Bosa constantly had a 335 lb man imposing his will on him in the run game Nijman needed less help. Bosa wore down. And no tex, Rodgers is not Jesus himself, he needs protection. If you don't believe me go back and watch the 2017 and 2018 seasons.

I like Nijman, and he was relatively decent. He did have a LOT of help, though. Imposing his will on Bosa? That's kinda laughable. But Bosa did get a little less effective as the game went on. Most of the running, like last season, as up the middle, center guard gap. And a lot of that was Jones himself - they weren't nearly as effective when Dillon was the RB.

run pMc, it was no surprise to me that we got to 17-0, and it should have been more with better play calling. (Well, I guess I was a little bit pleasantly surprised that our D got a couple of early stops hahahaha.)

Yeah, bobblehead, Rodgers ain't Jesus hahahaha (and the Jesus-hair is kinda annoying IMO). Jesus couldn't scramble to get away from the Romans. Although He did bounce back from getting crucified kinda like Rodgers last week and this week.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't blame 49ers for asking about Rodgers. Dude all but asked for a trade on draft day; it'd be dumb NOT to inquire about an MVP QB.

As for this game, random thoughts:

Njiman struggled against Bosa 1-1, but everyone does. Overall he held up pretty well, and I think as the game went on MLF gave him some help blocking on that side, and also tried to keep his assignments easy. Pretty impressive recovery after the 1st series where Bosa was disruptive.
Eric Stokes got an education. He's very green so I'm taking the good with the bad and hope he's a fast learner. Had a few DammitStokes moments last night though.
Josh Myers is pretty good for a rookie. Newman isn't there yet. These guys could be good with a full offseason and an NFL weight room.
The QB had a good game. There were times where he's just throwing "tryna get a PI call" passes that I question are even catchable. Threw some absolute darts though and was very effective. Had a good game plan of getting the ball out fast against a good defense.
Davante was a killer last night, picked on a depleted secondary that played less 2-shell (in 1st half) than I expected. The hit from Jimmy Ward should have been a flag; takes a lot to get back in the game and catch some crucial throws after a hit like that.
Jones and Dillon kept churning yards, nothing too fancy there but eliminating a TOP advantage for the Niners and keeping their DL honest can't hurt.

Getting out to a 17-0 start was unexpected and pleasant surprise, and helped them defensively. Giving up that long KO return and TD at end of 1st half was ugly though.
Berry seemed to use more pressure that prior games; maybe MLF doesn't need to tell him twice. Mixed zone and man up ok, JimmyG was not very sharp to start but they adjusted and made a game of it. Kenny Clark, Gary and Preston did well.
The ILBs are going to see mistakes made (biting on fakes, not dropping properly in coverage) when they review the film. I think they were likely cheating toward Kittle/Juszczyk. Henry Black also took some false steps that hurt.
OK with going for it on 4th down, but that play was ugly.

Big win, could go a long way for them if it doesn't go their heads. PIT is good but GB can beat them if they bring their A game.

run pMc, it wasn't much of a surprise to me that we got off to a 17-0 lead. It coulda/shoulda been more but for some shaky playcalling. I have to admit, though, to being a little bit surprised we got those early stops. It could have turned into a rout if not for the special teams blunder on that kickoff.

I agree exactly about Stokes. He's gonna get better, and those were some pretty decent WRs he was going against. Heaven help us if Kevin King had been in that spot or if King had even been the slot Corner.

Davante had a great game, but he also had a couple of uncharacteristic drops.

There were at least four horrendous calls or non-calls that went against us. The helmet to helmet on Ward, the not overturning the bounced completion, and probably the long pass/tickytack pass interference on Stokes which probably was a "make up call" in the officials' minds for the very legitimate ones against the Niners. And maybe the no intentional grounding call too. Funny story: I was storming around and cussing pretty bad by the time they reviewed that Garropolo fumble that he claimed was a forward pass. Then I heard the big cheer, and I'm thinking, "oh shit, HOW can they not call that a fumble". Then it's Packer ball. There must have been quite a few thousand Packer fans there doing that cheering.

I still don't much like the D, as I detailed in another thread.

BTW, is it Barry like Manilow? or Berry like Chuck? I think the former.

[George Cumby]

I said it before and I'll say it again, O Line just isn't that big a factor.

This is the type of hard-hitting, incisive anal-lysis that keeps me coming back to PackerRats.

[Fosco33]

Two things on final fg drive that I saw on reply that I didn’t real time.

First throw to Adams our LG got away w/ a decent hold that would’ve led to inc or sack.

And our fg blocking was terrible - Niners left edge rush was unblocked and flew/dove and almost got there in time to disrupt the kick.

[Joemailman]

This is the type of hard-hitting, incisive anal-lysis that keeps me coming back to PackerRats.

After all these years, we finally know why it was so difficult getting Jerry Kramer into the Hall Of Fame.