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  • #31
    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    So is Gary actually getting pressure consistently and disrupting things? He was so bad early in the season.
    Gary looks like an average player with some flashes. Definitely not pro bowl caliber.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #32
      Week in and week out, Gary has been one of our best players. Top rated defensive player on the Packers this week according to PFF.



      Gary delivered five pressures, including another quarterback hit, and three total stops. He has 23 pressures in six games.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #33
        Here were the top 6 on Defense Going Into the Bears Game (before Gary's 87.4 PFF grade). The Bears game would have elevated his grade to 76.7... putting him 3rd (just behind Clark).

        1. LB De’Vondre Campbell, 84.8: He leads the team in stops with 16, and he’s probably been the most impactful linebacker in coverage (two interceptions) in the NFL this season.

        2. DL Kenny Clark, 78.0: His 16 pressures and 14 stops highlight how consistently disruptive he’s been as a rusher and against the run. He’s one of only three defensive linemen in the NFL with at least 14 stops and 14 pressures.

        3. CB Jaire Alexander, 75.1: He gave up two touchdown passes in four games, but he still has terrific all-around grades in coverage, against the run and as a tackler.

        4. OLB Rashan Gary, 74.6: His 18 total pressures lead the team, and his seven quarterback hits rank third among all edge rushers. He has six run stops over the last two games.

        5. OLB Preston Smith, 73.9: He has 11 pressures in five games, but he’s also produced the No. 1 run defense grade among NFL edge defenders with at least 20 run defense snaps.

        6. S Adrian Amos, 66.0: He’s been credited with giving up a team-high three touchdown passes, but he’s been consistently solid against the run and as a tackler.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          Week in and week out, Gary has been one of our best players. Top rated defensive player on the Packers this week according to PFF.

          https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lis...ek-6-vs-bears/
          Our defense isn’t that good though. We miss Z. There’s a big drop off from Z to Gary. Average starter is what I see from Gary.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            Week in and week out, Gary has been one of our best players. Top rated defensive player on the Packers this week according to PFF.

            https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lis...ek-6-vs-bears/
            I watch Gary a lot and to my layman's eye, I see a really effective player.

            He's active, energetic, relentless and seems to have broadened his repertoire of skills. I've seen him rush with power and speed and sometimes both. Watching when teams run away from him, he's really nifty getting through the ground clutter to get to the ball-carrier.

            I rarely see teams run at him, it makes me wonder if they are actively running away from him? IDK.

            I don't see him taking plays off, at all.

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            • #36
              Agree- he doesn't take plays off.
              Gary isn't what I would can a flashy player or a playmaker, but I'd say he's a solid player. He gets a lot of pressures (if not sacks) on the QB and is decent in the run game. If Preston can't play they are very thin at OLB.

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              • #37
                I just thought of this and it would be perfect theme music for "More Banjo":

                A bluegrass style band covering the "Slippery When Wet" album in it's entirety. What do you call such a thing?

                Banjovi
                "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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                • #38
                  I really don't understand why so many dont like gary, or at least downplay his contribution. He creates more pressure than any other packers player and is ok vrs run. I cant think of a single team that would not want him.
                  Even with p smith out for 3 quarters he consistently disrupted fields through out the game.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #39
                    Before the "Gary draft" even happened, I specifically singled him out on this board as the one player that was among the many that at one point or other someone mocked to us that I did NOT want drafted. However, I will admit he's actually been pretty decent and I still think getting better.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                      “I still own you, I still own you” - hahaha
                      Holy cow. I only just noticed the Packers were in home jerseys.

                      LOL.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                        Before the "Gary draft" even happened, I specifically singled him out on this board as the one player that was among the many that at one point or other someone mocked to us that I did NOT want drafted. However, I will admit he's actually been pretty decent and I still think getting better.
                        To be honest this was how I felt, but I misconstrued Gary's performances in college as a low-effort issure. That's not the problem.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                          To be honest this was how I felt, but I misconstrued Gary's performances in college as a low-effort issure. That's not the problem.
                          Doesn't it make you wonder how many other players are used in a way that makes them look unplayable at the next level.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                            Our defense isn’t that good though. We miss Z. There’s a big drop off from Z to Gary. Average starter is what I see from Gary.
                            Gary is doing the one thing I was really worried he couldn't do. Pressure while still honoring the run. Z is NOT very good against the run, so if the only metric you use is ability to pressure the QB, then Z is much better. I have harped for a decade on here that you must be able to do both on offense, and by extension to beat the good teams you have to be able to stop both on defense...and not by subbing guys in and out constantly.

                            Gary is playing very good ball right now. Probably not a pro bowler, but very good. It was something I pointed out about Campbells historical PFF grade...he is graded on all 3 downs. I don't care if another guy has a higher grade if he has to come off the field on 3rd and 4 because he can't cover and the guy you put in has a higher grade, but he can't play on 2nd and 4.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                              Doesn't it make you wonder how many other players are used in a way that makes them look unplayable at the next level.
                              Or guys Fat Mike misused that made them look bad at this level...Micah Hyde comes to mind.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #45
                                One thing I noticed that brings a smile to my face about the bears, we held them to 14.
                                We have held no one to 14 this season and we are more beat up than at any point. #1 cb, #1 edge, best olb gone for over 3/4ers, yet we held them to 14.
                                Bears suck. Im happy
                                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                                George Orwell

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