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  • #31
    I'd be thinking a lot more positive about Love if he could run like Fields or Murray or Jackson. I even advocated drafting Jackson and using him as an occasional wildcat QB/backup. One positive about Love in that game was taking off and running a few times - about as good that way as a 37 year old Aaron Rodgers runs it. However, he didn't have the quick recognition to get away and throw a completion very many times, and when he did run, it seemed like he was just tucking it and going too soon - maybe under orders to do that.

    He probably won't be a Packer enough years to have a chance to be the next starter, as Rodgers should and very likely will be around for way past Love's rookie contract. If not, everything turns to shit.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      It's crazy for people to be practically dismissing Love after 1 game. Justin Fields looked pretty good tonight, but he's had 3 games this year where he was worse than what Love did. All the rookie QB's starting (Love is practically a rookie) are struggling with the exception of Mac Jones, and he's been nothing special.
      I don't know if anybody is dismissing Love; he just gave little to be excited about. Justin Fields shows some real upside; it's easy to see his flashes.

      And Love Machine has had a year plus of preparation; it would seem fair to compare him to those who were drafted last year and played shortly thereafter. Why ignore the fact that he's in his second year. Guys like Trevor Lawrence, Mac Jones, adn the Jets dude are thrown right into the fire with hardly any nfl preparation.

      Love is a project in process and here's to hoping he develops into an above average NFL starter some day regardless of where he is.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        Why does everyone keep saying he's practically a rookie? He's, in fact, not a rookie at all? I understand the off-season was weird last year but he had a full season to do stuff.


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        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
          So one and done then. Draft a QB in the first round next year then and hope Gute can do better this time.


          We already drafted him so like him or not we need to keep him around as a backup as we try to extend Rodgers for 2-4 more years.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            We already drafted him so like him or not we need to keep him around as a backup as we try to extend Rodgers for 2-4 more years.
            I see this too
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            • #36
              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
              Why does everyone keep saying he's practically a rookie? He's, in fact, not a rookie at all? I understand the off-season was weird last year but he had a full season to do stuff.
              He had a full season to do very little. No preseason games and Packers made Boyle the backup so he got few reps in practice once they got into the season. It was a strange situation in which a 1st round pick was handed a clipboard and not allowed to do much. I get he's not a rookie. But he headed into his 2nd year having had fewer opportunities to work on is game as a rookie than guys who were drafted much later than him. By contrast. when Rodgers was a rookie, he got the backup spot so he would get the backup reps even though Nall was much more prepared to play.
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              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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              • #37
                Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                Why does everyone keep saying he's practically a rookie? He's, in fact, not a rookie at all? I understand the off-season was weird last year but he had a full season to do stuff.
                Doing "stuff" really doesn't equate to having 11 starting caliber defenders running at you every play.

                The Packers offense is not crafted for Love. It is crafted for Rodgers...rightfully so. When Rodgers was ruled out on Wednesday, it gave the coaching staff little time to revise the game plan in Love's favor. I think that was more where MLF was taking the blame after the game.

                It would be the equivalent of letting you get behind an Indy car set up for an experienced race driver and telling you to go out and race a few laps at top speed. You be in the wall on turn 1.
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                • #38
                  Also, Love was a project coming out of college. I think this was primarily why Gute never told Rodgers about drafting him. He wasn't ready to be a starter. He didn't face NFL caliber talent much at Utah State. He's not like Fields or Lawrence that were facing draft worthy talent nearly every week. Love was at least 3 years from being ready when he was drafted. This wasn't about trying to immediately replace Rodgers.
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                  • #39
                    As to those wanting to draft another qb, I think we should if one falls in the draft. They never really do any more, but if one did go for it.
                    I think Love will be a decent starter at the least, but it is worth taking a chance and doubling down. I can't see rodgers staying after this year plus his contract will kill us.
                    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      This wasn't about trying to immediately replace Rodgers.
                      I really can't see what Rodgers was upset about. How did a drafted QB actually threaten him in any way? The worst that could happen is the Packers decide to let Rodgers go in a few years. Rodgers would have many suitors across the league.

                      I know this is a dead horse, but watching Love play makes Rodger's taking offense even more puzzling. Every player in the NFL, much like the coaches, knows that they will be replaced before they prefer.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        The Snapper and the Holder are undoubtedly duds. Mainly the snapper. He cost the Packers the game, not Crosby.
                        And whatever is going on on the right side of the OL for kicks. That's where the rusher for the blocked FG came from iirc. Tonyan was being blamed but seems like it's something else.
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                        • #42
                          I still can't see why people are ragging on poor Wirtel. His snaps weren't bad, and the rush that blocked the kick didn't come over him - by rule, it basically couldn't.

                          Crosby seems to be degrading this season. Maybe, make that probably it would be good to ask him to retire after this season. Or if he gets much worse this season, we apparently have a very capable kicker on the practice squad.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                            I really can't see what Rodgers was upset about. How did a drafted QB actually threaten him in any way? The worst that could happen is the Packers decide to let Rodgers go in a few years. Rodgers would have many suitors across the league.

                            I know this is a dead horse, but watching Love play makes Rodger's taking offense even more puzzling. Every player in the NFL, much like the coaches, knows that they will be replaced before they prefer.
                            He wasn't pissed at the pick because he was "threatened" by Love. He was pissed because they used a 1st rounder (and the 4th, IIRC) to move up and take a QB when they had just played in the NFCCG and was looking for immediate difference makers so they could make another SB run.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                              He wasn't pissed at the pick because he was "threatened" by Love. He was pissed because they used a 1st rounder (and the 4th, IIRC) to move up and take a QB when they had just played in the NFCCG and was looking for immediate difference makers so they could make another SB run.
                              Well, that certainly does make more sense.
                              The depth of AR's outrage suggests he was personally insulted, and that seems to be the impression of WI sports writers.
                              I'll chalk up your take as a possibility.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                                Dillion was a stud. We had good blocking. Rushing or recieving we should have smashed the crap outta them like hrs the Titans.
                                Dillon absolutely was. He trucked a few guys and had a couple of nice receptions, including one off this shoelaces!
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