Mid-season Check In - Is Aaron Back Next Year?

[Fritz]

Sounds like Rodgers demands at least a three-year commitment from whomever he plays for. I think at this point the Packers will do that, and keep Love for another year to develop him and try to get something in return (unless Rodgers suffers some injury or his play somehow falls of drastically next year). Maybe they'd even keep Love for two more seasons, then trade him with that fifth year option in play. But if Rodgers still wants to get paid to the highest level (and he's the kind of guy who seems to measure respect in dollars), I don't see how the Packers can re-sign Adams (or anyone else for that matter, e.g. Preston Smith), or how they'd also manage to extend Jaire Alexander or Elgton Jenkins. If the Packers accommodate Rodgers, I don't see how they can keep the level of talent necessary to have the kind of top contending team they have this year. And you can't just expect to draft so well every year that you can just keep plugging new stars into the system. Damn Rodgers. Wish he had the sense to structure a deal that is team-friendly. I wish he'd realize that his legacy is not dependent upon the size of his contract but upon the number of SB's he can appear in.

[George Cumby]

^ This. If he does the right thing, the Pack could be positioned well for however long he's on the team and even beyond.

But, given he's apparently addled by his fame, etc, who knows......

[bobblehead]

Look at the team with pretty good surrounding talent and in dire need of a competent QB. I come up with two captain obvious teams.

DENVER
PITTSBURG

Both are giving up over two 1st rounders plus for Rodgers.


With that being said, if Gutebag does his job AROD will stay and retire as a Packer. He's drafted and used FA well enough to give the Love Machine away for a Quarter Pounder with Cheese, a 5th rounder, or whatever the heck you can get for him if he wants.

If an aged, lost his job alex smith was worth a 2nd and a never was like Jimmy G was worth a 2nd, I would hope we could get a 2nd for Love if he shows well next preseason.

But to the Rodgers question I have been consistent from the start. I said he would show up and play this season. I have said that if he plays similar to last season they will lock him up to a new deal that doesn't destroy the cap for another 2 years. He has played well.

[King Friday]

You can eliminate the choice of the organization deciding to move on from Rodgers. I don't think that is logical. The Packers absolutely want to keep Rodgers. I don't believe the selection of Love was some grand scheme to jettison Rodgers, and clearly the last two seasons have revealed the only true option for the Packers is to fight to keep him.

I still have the feeling that Rodgers is coming to the realization that he's not likely to find a markedly better situation anywhere else, and leaving means he will only have to work a lot harder in the years ahead. As long as the Packers allow him to have input into decision making, I'm guessing he'll be okay with it even if he never sees eye to eye with someone like Gute.

The ability to fit him and Adams under the cap is there. At this point, I would guess there's a greater chance they stay than leave.

[King Friday]

I wish he'd realize that his legacy is not dependent upon the size of his contract but upon the number of SB's he can appear in.

I think he absolutely understands his legacy is about Super Bowls. His displeasure with the front office was about selecting Love, who would provide nothing to help get a Rodgers led team to the Super Bowl, rather than getting a player that would.

Rodgers has repeatedly said this isn't about money, and I believe him. He's got plenty. He wants rings. He wants to know the organization will go out of its way to bring in talent that can help now, not 5 years from now. I think the Packers have done a reasonable job this year convincing him of that, and if they can work with him to establish a 2-3 year roadmap of how to stay at the top, I think he's likely to stay.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good to see most or all of the rats' posts coming around to making sense now - we keep him, fairly long term, just a few shades of difference on how it all comes down and about getting something for Love. Hopefully Gutekunst thinks and acts as sensibly as the posters in here. How about now AND 5 years from now?

[RashanGary]

Rodgers is playing too well to get rid of. It will be interesting to see what players are kept and what players are let go.

Stokes was a lucky pick. Meyers looked like a good pick.

Next year we need to get lucky and hit on three more. If we bring in 5 good ones, we can afford to lose 5 good ones and still be in it.

The salary cap is 208M we are over by 42M

If we cleaned house

Z 16M savings
P 12M savings
Amos 8M savings
Turner 5M savings
Cobb 9M savings

That’s about 50M in savings. Resigning Rodgers could save another 15M. Resigning Jaire could save a little. We might be able to keep Adams and Rodgers if we part ways with a handful of the other solid players who are high paid.

[RashanGary]

There might even be a way to keep a couple of the cap savings guys and resign Rodgers and Adams. The cap is supposed to go way up in 2023

[RashanGary]

A part of the point I’m making is that keeping Adams and Rodgers together is almost necessary. All that chemistry can’t be replaced. It would take the next guy 7 years to get to that level with Rodgers.

[smuggler]

Amos would be the hardest cut to swallow.

[RashanGary]

Amos would be the hardest cut to swallow.

I think they could find a way to get Amos, Rodgers and Adams under the cap.

[RashanGary]

Amos would be the hardest cut to swallow.

Both Z and P would be hard too. We’d have Garvin starting and Tipa as the top backup.

But what’s worse, losing Z and P or losing Rodgers and Adams. It’s kind of a no brainer.

[RashanGary]

The cap is expected to reach 260M by 2024. Probably 230M in 2023. So big increases are happening in the coming years. That means any losses would be short term. Z, P and Cobb might be all that’s needed to keep Rodgers and Adams. And the future cap increases would take care of anyone else we’re trying to keep around.

[texaspackerbacker]

Obviously we keep Rodgers and Adams. Amos too is almost a sure thing. I think we cut Zadarius but not Preston - it can definitely be done. Turner, especially after this injury, I think is more than 50/50 to be gone. Cobb I think gets cut and then re-signed for way less - say $2-4 million. We keep everybody else worth keeping too.

R E L A X all of you who tend to panic so easily hahahaha. It can be done; It should be done; It will be done.

[George Cumby]

Does anyone else think Preston has improved from last year?

Kind of hard to say with Z being injured, but right now I'd rather keep Preston.