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    Could two pro bowl qb's both make their return on the same day ? Is "meh" special teams better than "could he worse" and why is the ST standard so low in Green Bay.

    This week should be interesting on many levels.

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    Is this about the Seattle game - Rodgers and Wilson? Probable, yes, that they both come back. I thought "The Bay" usually referred to San Fran. Seattle has "The Sound".

    I just don't know how much coaching has to do with special teams, especially kicking. Whether it's the good Crosby or the bad Crosby on any given day doesn't have much to do with Drayton. Same thing to a great extent about returners. If you don't have Devin Hester or somebody similar, then all the scheming in the world isn't gonna make much difference. Kick coverage - staying in your lanes - is more discipline than scheme. I would think one coach is as good as another when it comes to reminding/screaming at ST players to do that. Is it the coach's fault when a usually sure-handed guy drops the ball or a bad bounce flicks a guy's toe?
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #3
      It's hard to fathom how bad special teams has been for what seems like three decades.

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      • #4
        The play where the guy kicked the ball and handed it to KC at the goal line was all on Amari. He called fair catch, he needs to run up and actually catch it. He had room.

        As for the seachickens, Rodgers will return and throw for 400 yards in a fuck you statement game. All will be right in cheeseland.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
          It's hard to fathom how bad special teams has been for what seems like three decades.
          It is amazing through 2 GMs, 2 HCs and what? 5 ST coaches we still seem to perform for shit. The only thing I can point a finger at is that when the NFL limited practices and times coaches had to cut corners somewhere. In GB perhaps we have consistently taken from ST preperation.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            It is amazing through 2 GMs, 2 HCs and what? 5 ST coaches we still seem to perform for shit. The only thing I can point a finger at is that when the NFL limited practices and times coaches had to cut corners somewhere. In GB perhaps we have consistently taken from ST preperation.
            For how long during Capers tenure they didn't give two shits to improving that quality of the ILB group? So Yeah, It could be that they just don't want to invest the time to get good at ST.

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            • #7
              It's been a puzzle to me. Over the years there have been some good ST coaches available, or young guys who have developed into good ST coaches, but Green Bay keeps picking the turds. Their special teams have been the Detroit Lions of the NFL for many seasons now, maybe since Gil Haskell coached them in the SB years with Holmgren.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                Who is the ST coach that we f'cked up on again ? Remember MLF liked him , and it sounded like Gutebag lowballed his offer and he left and was hired by somebody else almost right away ?

                Often when we fire our ST coach, we just hire his assistant. That makes no sense to me. If it's broken let's go outside and fix it
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  I'd like to hear exactly how all this shit comes back on the poor ST coach - dropped balls, bad bounces hitting people, the kicker missing kicks, etc. We've actually gotten better at staying in lanes and coverage. Those of ya'all whining about Drayton, how would you do something different to fix it all?
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #10
                    Same way a losing football team eventually comes back to the head coach.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      I'd like to hear exactly how all this shit comes back on the poor ST coach - dropped balls, bad bounces hitting people, the kicker missing kicks, etc. We've actually gotten better at staying in lanes and coverage. Those of ya'all whining about Drayton, how would you do something different to fix it all?
                      Kick some people square in the nuts.

                      It's probably not all on Drayton, but the breakdowns on blocking that have happened over and over would've been fixed by a good coach by now. When the same mistake is repeated over and over, you have a coaching problem.
                      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                      • #12
                        So how 'bout dem Seachickens? Sounds like Rumpel Stiltskin will be back at the controls for Seattle, so this should be a good game. Good test for this defense.

                        Who knows if Arod will be back, but if he's not, I hope The Flower learned a few things from that KC game in terms of game planning for Love.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          I would hope they develop a game plan that can be implemented with Love if for some reason Rodgers does not clear protocol. It would be above stupid to assume Rodgers will start and devise a game plan solely on his abilities.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                            I would hope they develop a game plan that can be implemented with Love if for some reason Rodgers does not clear protocol. It would be above stupid to assume Rodgers will start and devise a game plan solely on his abilities.
                            Of course they'll have a game plan in case Love has to start. That wasn't my point at all. My point was that it had better be a better game plan than what they trotted out for KC.

                            They really didn't help Love out much in that game. They knew what Spags would do as KC DC - he's not a secret. They knew he'd blitz the hell out of Love. And they didn't have a response for that until the fourth quarter.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              So how 'bout dem Seachickens? Sounds like Rumpel Stiltskin will be back at the controls for Seattle, so this should be a good game. Good test for this defense.

                              Who knows if Arod will be back, but if he's not, I hope The Flower learned a few things from that KC game in terms of game planning for Love.
                              Wilson is facing the new and improved Roll Over Beethoven Packer's Defense feat. Rashan "The Wolverine" Gary. I look forward to Gary taking his fucking head off.

                              Guaranteed MLF has two game plans going in, one for the Love Boat, one for the God-King.

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