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  • #16
    Maybe I should get on your Metcalf bandwagon because you're pretty much saying same as me that O Line simply isn't all that big a factor in winning games, at least not with Rodgers.

    I don't think Leroy Butler ever actually said that hahahaha. As for Barnes, Black, and Sullivan, I agree with you on at least two of the three. Sullivan I generally have a good opinion of. Black especially seems to mess up all the time. Too bad Vernon Scott hasn't been available.
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    • #17
      Bakhtiari may be back after the bye. Can't come fast enough, whenever he's Bak.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        Maybe I should get on your Metcalf bandwagon because you're pretty much saying same as me that O Line simply isn't all that big a factor in winning games, at least not with Rodgers.

        I don't think Leroy Butler ever actually said that hahahaha. As for Barnes, Black, and Sullivan, I agree with you on at least two of the three. Sullivan I generally have a good opinion of. Black especially seems to mess up all the time. Too bad Vernon Scott hasn't been available.
        There’s a short documentary about the rookie season of Peyton Manning and Roosevelt Blackman. In one preseason game, Blackman was struggling. On the bench after a series, Butler said something like, referring to Blackman, get this bum out of the fucking game! I was like, chill, Butler, it’s a fucking preseason game!

        Black, Barnes and Sullivan are the weak links on the D. Just replace Black with Douglas or King. I don’t wanna see Sullivan on the field when J-Alex returns.. Barnes is kinda hard to get off the field since Pack don’t have anyone else better at the Mick. Shoulda kept J-Smith. Maybe J-Smith sucked, but he sucked less than fucking Barnes.

        As for the OL, I nod to the notion that OL is relatively important. It’s just that for the most part, the skillets (or Kung Fu, according the X-Files) of a competent 1st round Yokozuna is not that different from that of a competent 5th rounder. Check out the Fucking Center’s replacements at both T and G. Indeed, Packers woulda been off drafting Metcalf over the Fucking Center.
        Last edited by Guest; 11-26-2021, 01:13 PM. Reason: Damn iPhone XR!

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        • #19
          "It’s just that for the most part, the skillets (or Kung Fu, according the X-Files) of a competent 1st round Yokozuna is not that different from that of a competent 5th rounder." - kinda like the difference between Metcalf and Valdez-Scantling.

          Thanks for the history lesson about Butler and Blackman. I didn't even remember Blackman, but Butler must have gotten his wish, as Blackman only played 3 games for the Packers before being shipped off to Cincinnati.

          Henry Black is, of course, a Safety, and King and Douglas are Corners, but I've thought and said a lot of times, King might be better as a Safety. Good if we get Vernon Scott back. I still say Sullivan ain't that bad. Barnes has done a few good things, but the success of Campbell kinda highlights Barnes' mediocrity. It's a mystery why Jaylon Smith got so suckish so quick, but nobody has signed him, so I guess he really is that bad.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            "It’s just that for the most part, the skillets (or Kung Fu, according the X-Files) of a competent 1st round Yokozuna is not that different from that of a competent 5th rounder." - kinda like the difference between Metcalf and Valdez-Scantling.

            Thanks for the history lesson about Butler and Blackman. I didn't even remember Blackman, but Butler must have gotten his wish, as Blackman only played 3 games for the Packers before being shipped off to Cincinnati.

            Henry Black is, of course, a Safety, and King and Douglas are Corners, but I've thought and said a lot of times, King might be better as a Safety. Good if we get Vernon Scott back. I still say Sullivan ain't that bad. Barnes has done a few good things, but the success of Campbell kinda highlights Barnes' mediocrity. It's a mystery why Jaylon Smith got so suckish so quick, but nobody has signed him, so I guess he really is that bad.
            Comparing MVS to Metcalf is like comparing myself to Tony O’Day. I’m smart, O’Day is dumb. I am a sapiosexual (a person who finds intelligence sexually attractive or arousing, according to the dictionary); O’Day is a Neandersexual (a person who finds intelligence sexually unattractive).

            Point being, MVS is a one-trick pony. He’s an awful route runner and can only run the bomb route. Metcalf ain’t Greg Jennings great as a route runner but has gotten good at running a variety of routes.

            If the coaches are gonna foolishly insist on putting Black one on one against the likes of Jefferson, might as well just play Douglas or King over Black.

            Sullivan is a liability, plain and simple. Even Tony O’Day can comprehend that and he’s 97% Neanderthal.

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            • #21
              Ooh, you left yourself open for this - like a shutdown Corner who bites on a double move. You're Metcalf to O'Day being MVS? Assuming you're really smarter than him, indisputably, his achievement level is way-y-y above yours. Arguably, MVS is on the way up as a route runner and is headed for at least as good a career as Metcalf, especially considering his fifth rounder status compared to Metcalf 1st or 2nd. Factor in apparent attitude, and it's even more in MVS's favor. And your attitude versus O'Day? I'm not even gonna go there hahahaha. If you're a "sapiosexual", and a "Neandersexual" sees intelligence as unattractive, what would you call somebody who sees intelligence as no factor at all as long as she's got a nice body?

              I'd disagree that Sullivan has been a total liability. He's been pretty close to 50/50 between good plays and bad - which of course, you'd like to see better in a Corner, but he's nowhere near as bad Kevin King prior to the past several weeks. Douglas has been a pleasant surprise, but really only good compared to low expectations. I could see one or the other of those two taking Black's place as basically the 4th DB when Alexander comes back, but I certainly don't want to see King as the slot Corner over Sullivan, and probably not Douglas there either.
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