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  • #46
    If Rodgers is gone, literally nothing else matters - but he's not gonna be gone. Adams as you say, will stay with Rodgers. Yeah, of course they keep Jaire. Campbell should and will IMO be kept too; All things are possible if you use the cap right - extend extend extend. Rasul also probably will NOT be gone. Chandon and Black are not horrible. Anything less than using a #1 pick for a DB which IMO is unlikely probably wouldn't dislodge them. D Linemen take time in most cases. I'm moderately hopeful that Slaton breaks out like Clark did in another year or two.

    So what do we draft in the First? I'm getting surer all the time it will be an Outside Pass Rusher. What else? Not really much needed - maybe ILB, maybe Safety, maybe D Line, we always draft a mid-round O Lineman, Kicker maybe unless they're convinced Molson is gold, that's about it ...... maybe a speed burner kick returner.
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    • #47
      I don't think Chandon is horrible; I think he's middle of the road and they can improve there. I do think Henry Black is borderline horrible; when he's in teams pick on him... if Joe Barry is going to insist on using 3 safety looks they can definitely do better there.

      I'd probably go OLB, WR, DB, DL, OL in order of importance, assuming the QB returns. Really, it's all about BPA... they won't draft for need in the first two rounds. (That seems to be R3 for some reason.)

      I think MLF is good enough to scheme a few wins if Rodgers leaves, but you're right about not much else mattering. You need a franchise QB and Jordan Love isn't at that level yet and may never be. If the NFCN is as bad next year as it looks like it will be a 9 win team could easily sneak in as div champ. Detroit will still be rebuilding with Goff as their QB, Minnesota might have a new coach and their QB has a $45 million cap hit (AND IT'S ALL GUARANTEED -- Thanks Spielman!) and the Bears (even with Justin Fields and an aging/injured Khalil Mack) are still the Bears.

      If the QB leaves I'd try to pry Tyler Huntley away from the Ravens for a R2 or R3 pick to compete with Jordan Love. It's a shitty year for QBs in the draft, and I think MLF could win with Huntley.

      As for KR, I think either Amari Rodgers or Kylin Hill could do it next year. Amari is better at KR than PR. PR is an issue but I think they can dumpster dive for guys similar to David Moore or Tyler Ervin.

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      • #48
        None of those four guys have the kind of outstanding speed I'd like to see in a return guy. But I would be surprised if they get that kind of a speed burner. For some reason, they seem to stay away from those.

        Yeah, scheme a few wins. That's about what they would have without Rodgers - a few wins, damn few even with a comparatively easy schedule and a supposedly mediocre division.

        But R E L A X, Rodgers will be a Packer for the rest of his career - way more years than most of the nervous nellies think. If they're shooting for mediocrity, yeah, Huntley with Love would give them two flavors of it.
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        • #49
          do we need to start worrying about LT in the draft?

          the Bahk injury is starting to worry me. the thing is taking way too long to heal. in a day and age where guys come back way earlier the a year for an ACL, he is now over a year

          jenkins might be a good replacement at LT long term if he can come back from his injury without our training staff fucking him up worse. or maybe we just stick with the rookie, whats his nuts, he hasn't been half bad

          but bottom line, is it time to worry about bahk and do we need to find some other o-line help?

          i suppose we'll find out if he can still go in the coming weeks

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          • #50
            Assuming AROD stays, Adams will be here too. And they'll keep Alexander.

            That will probably mean Tonyan and Campbell are going elsewhere for more money as well as others.

            LEO CHENEL.....really want this guy. His tenacity, intensity, and high motor is what I want for this defense. And like TJ Watt, we've been able to watch him and his character right up the road so we shouldn't pass him by.

            Agree another pass rusher, WR, and a tenactious DL would be a bonus as well. And then just BPA and fill out the depth

            We keep Rodgers, Adams, and Alexander and we're sitting pretty fine
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #51
              Absolutely one of Ted's biggest and most glaring mistakes: trading back and passing on TJ Watt. Ouch.

              So is Leo "Coco" Chenel another TJ Watt or another Odell Thurman, Bretsky?
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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              • #52
                Chenal is a beast inside. Knock against him is questionable coverage skills. So he's no Devondre Campbell. Probably an upgrade over anybody else the Packers have though. He could help himself if he does well in agility drills at the combine. Maybe 4-5 round.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  None of those four guys have the kind of outstanding speed I'd like to see in a return guy. But I would be surprised if they get that kind of a speed burner. For some reason, they seem to stay away from those.

                  Yeah, scheme a few wins. That's about what they would have without Rodgers - a few wins, damn few even with a comparatively easy schedule and a supposedly mediocre division.

                  But R E L A X, Rodgers will be a Packer for the rest of his career - way more years than most of the nervous nellies think. If they're shooting for mediocrity, yeah, Huntley with Love would give them two flavors of it.
                  I mentioned Huntley because I think he could be pried away from BAL for a relatively inexpensive cost, and I think he's more accurate and a better scrambler than Love. Jordan Love has talent, but I worry about his footwork and especially his accuracy. I think Huntley could buy you a couple of years of being competitive while hopefully buying time to find/develop your next franchise QB.

                  As for KR, I think that's a different skillset from PR.
                  I think you want someone with enough size and build-up speed who can also pick the right lane to run through... so a RB can do that.
                  For PR I think you need someone with quickness and instant acceleration... those guys tend to be smaller and GB seems to have a roster philosophy that goes against having those types of players. Best I can guess at with their reasoning is that smaller players break down faster, and if they play offense they generally have a small catch radius and aren't good run blockers. I still think there's a place for a player like that on a roster though, but I'm not convinced MLF/Gute think that way.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Chenal is a beast inside. Knock against him is questionable coverage skills. So he's no Devondre Campbell. Probably an upgrade over anybody else the Packers have though. He could help himself if he does well in agility drills at the combine. Maybe 4-5 round.
                    I think Chenal is listed at 260? If that's right, that is one big dude. He'd likely be a better replacement to Krys Barnes IMO; I think DeVondre is faster and has better range than Barnes. In an ideal world Barnes is your ILB3 with Burks/McDuffie as your ST guys.

                    You're right about the agility drills - that could help him rise up the boards. Has he had to do much coverage? Wonder if he ends up more as a SLB in a 4-3.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                      I mentioned Huntley because I think he could be pried away from BAL for a relatively inexpensive cost, and I think he's more accurate and a better scrambler than Love. Jordan Love has talent, but I worry about his footwork and especially his accuracy. I think Huntley could buy you a couple of years of being competitive while hopefully buying time to find/develop your next franchise QB.

                      As for KR, I think that's a different skillset from PR.
                      I think you want someone with enough size and build-up speed who can also pick the right lane to run through... so a RB can do that.
                      For PR I think you need someone with quickness and instant acceleration... those guys tend to be smaller and GB seems to have a roster philosophy that goes against having those types of players. Best I can guess at with their reasoning is that smaller players break down faster, and if they play offense they generally have a small catch radius and aren't good run blockers. I still think there's a place for a player like that on a roster though, but I'm not convinced MLF/Gute think that way.
                      Love is not the answer, but Huntley isn't either. He runs better than Love, but he doesn't show much discipline. This is all irrelevant. Rodgers ain't leaving, and if he does, the team is in the toilet regardless.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Absolutely one of Ted's biggest and most glaring mistakes: trading back and passing on TJ Watt. Ouch.

                        So is Leo "Coco" Chenel another TJ Watt or another Odell Thurman, Bretsky?


                        He's no Odell Thurman; Odell washed away because he was a bad human.

                        Character wise, Leo is more TJ Wattish. He was an unblockable beast in College Football.

                        I think a team gets a steal in round 2 or 3 on him. Some say he falls to 4; I doubt it.

                        Production wise for the Badgers he was TJ Wattlike
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #57
                          WR Jameson Williams of Alabama, likely 1st round pick, out with a knee injury.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            WR Jameson Williams of Alabama, likely 1st round pick, out with a knee injury.
                            If it's an ACL like Saban speculated, someone will still take him knowing his first year is a medical redshirt. Very good WR.

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                            • #59
                              Drafttek had the Packers taking him at #32 in their latest mock draft. https://www.drafttek.com/2022-NFL-Mo...t-Round-1b.asp
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                That sucks so much. Credit to him for playing in an exhibition when his future was on the line, but he probably cost himself millions by doing it. If he goes from pick 32 to pick 64, it was probably about $5 mil...

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