I was referring to Jameson Williams. What Williams were you talking about?
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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostYou can't just put the injury aside. Williams almost certainly won't play very early in the season when the Packers need somebody, and coming off an ACL injury, as often as not, players are never quite as effective as before the injury. Also, players from teams like Alabama where they're surrounded by stars often look way better than what they are and disappoint as pros. I don't want Williams in the first or probably not in the second, and he probably won't be there in the third.
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Alabama WR's seem to have faired pretty well in the NFL. Doubtful GB takes Williams. And I agree a ACL is a huge risk and normally players are not back to one hundred percent til the second year. I worded that very poorly by saying injuries aside. I should have just stated before the injury he was a stud. IMO he's going in round one.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Good point, but it sometimes hard for a young QB to pass an experienced starter (J.T Barrett was a veteran starter who was at Ohio State in Burrow's first 2 years). Kind of like how Justin Fields and Jacob Eason were blocked by Jake Fromm at Georgia. I'm just wondering: if Williams couldn't get playing time over the Ohio State WRs, how convinced can we be that he should be taken before those guys--especially coming off an ACL tear? I actually have Williams higher on my board, but it's a decision that's I've wrestled with. If all three were on the board, I think I'd go with Wilson over Williams and maybe Olave over Williams--considering the ACL tear.Originally posted by King Friday View PostIs anyone concerned that Joe Burrow couldn't get on the field at Ohio State?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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All Big Ten BPA Packer mock draft - 2 Badgers and 3 WR's!
22: R1 P22 EDGE George Karlaftis - Purdue
28: R1 P28 S Daxton Hill - Michigan
53: R2 P21 WR Jahan Dotson - Penn State
59: R2 P27 LB Brandon Smith - Penn State
92: R3 P28 OT Nicholas Petit-Frere - Ohio State
132: R4 P27 TE Jake Ferguson - Wisconsin
140: R4 P35 G Thayer Munford - Ohio State
171: R5 P28 DL Haskell Garrett - Ohio State
228: R7 P7 WR Bo Melton - Rutgers
249: R7 P28 OT Logan Bruss - Wisconsin
258: R7 P37 WR Jalen Nailor - Michigan StateI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Yeah, sweet until SF hands the ball off to some no-name running back who plows through our other-than-Kenny-Clark-no-name defensive line over and over again for seven or eight yards a pop.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostInjury aside, Williams is a Superstar. Real Deal and best player on the file in the title game before he got hurt.
For a while many were projecting him top 30; now many are projecting he'll be picked by 20.
Gotta consider him at 22 if he's there. Man it would be f'ckin SWEET if we got Williams at 22 and Burks at 28.
Get Kenny Clark some help!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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We signed somebody in fa who is going to help Kenny.Originally posted by Fritz View PostYeah, sweet until SF hands the ball off to some no-name running back who plows through our other-than-Kenny-Clark-no-name defensive line over and over again for seven or eight yards a pop.
Get Kenny Clark some help!TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Williams is pretty good, but taking a WR with an ACL injury R1 is a little scary, especially since he's not gonna miss the whole offseason, camp and probably the first 4-6 weeks of the season. Dude will be way behind. I've heard some people say they should trade up to get him, which is lunacy for the reasons mentioned. If he fell to 22 I'd think about it, but I'd also look at who else was available. When healthy he's very good.
I'm not sure how GB feels about him playing at 180 lbs or whatever. He's fast, but pro CBs are still going to test how he handles tight press coverage.
Kevin Austin is a bit of a mystery because he basically had a good half season, which could either mean it's starting to click for him or he just had a hot streak at the right time. Dynamite athlete but he had conduct issues and wasn't very productive over most of his collegiate career. He's a Day 3 pick, and a guy you could get to play the MVS role because of his speed, size, and contested catch ability AND get him to play gunner on STs but he's a raw player and if you take him R3 you're reaching.
Kenny Clark needs help. Jarren Reed might give him that. Some KC fans said he was JAG and he has the off-field stuff but I think at a minimum he's a more dynamic player than Tyler Lancaster. They signed him to a 1 year deal, so he's either replacing Lancaster or Keke... meaning they still need another decent DL. No offense to Jack Heflin, but they can and should look to upgrade their DL depth. Their run defense is not great and aside from Clark I'm not sure they have anyone on the DL who can rush the passer. (Maybe Reed, depending on how he's used.) They are one injury away from a mess there. Devondre Campbell isn't much use if the DL can't keep the other team's OG out of his face.
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Non-Power Conference Mock Draft
22: R1 P22 OT Bernhard Raimann - Central Michigan
28: R1 P28 WR Christian Watson - NDSU
53: R2 P21 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati
59: R2 P27 DL Travis Jones - UConn
92: R3 P28 LB Chad Muma - Wyoming
132: R4 P27 RB Pierre Strong Jr. - South Dakota State
140: R4 P35 G Luke Goedeke - Central Michigan
171: R5 P28 G Chris Paul - Tulsa
228: R7 P7 DL CJ Wright - Georgia Southern
249: R7 P28 TE Cole Turner - Nevada
258: R7 P37 EDGE Brayden Thomas - NDSUI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Mel Kiper's Packer picks in 2 round mock draft:
22) Christian Watson - WR - North Dakota St.
28) Zion Johnson - G/C - Boston College
53) Alec Pierce - WR - Cincinnati
59) Myjai Sanders - OLB - Cincinnati
I don't see Gute taking an IOL in the 1st round. Sanders is lighter than what the Packers prefer at Edge. The WR's might be slight reaches, but are possibilities.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I would be pretty happy with this mock, maybe taking the tackle in round 3 will end the curse of terrible picks in that round
22-Edge Jermaine Johnson
28-WR Chris Olave
53-DL Travis Jones
59-WR Alec Pierce
92-OT Tyler Smith
132-EDGE Sam Williams
140-LB Jack Sanborn
171-OT Luke Goedeke
228-S Quentin Lake
249-TE Chigoziem Okonkwo
258-WR Tre Turner
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I’d like this—minus Sanders. I think Zion can play OT—ala Elgton.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostMel Kiper's Packer picks in 2 round mock draft:
22) Christian Watson - WR - North Dakota St.
28) Zion Johnson - G/C - Boston College
53) Alec Pierce - WR - Cincinnati
59) Myjai Sanders - OLB - Cincinnati
I don't see Gute taking an IOL in the 1st round. Sanders is lighter than what the Packers prefer at Edge. The WR's might be slight reaches, but are possibilities."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Originally posted by jklowan View PostI would be pretty happy with this mock, maybe taking the tackle in round 3 will end the curse of terrible picks in that round
22-Edge Jermaine Johnson
28-WR Chris Olave
53-DL Travis Jones
59-WR Alec Pierce
92-OT Tyler Smith
132-EDGE Sam Williams
140-LB Jack Sanborn
171-OT Luke Goedeke
228-S Quentin Lake
249-TE Chigoziem Okonkwo
258-WR Tre Turner
This would be GREAT; except IMO J Johnson goes well before 22, Olave before 28, and Jones before 53. Maybe I'm wrong. I could see Pierce at 59TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Christian Watson is going to be interesting on draft night. Big boards have him mostly in the 40's, but A LOT of mocks have him going to the Packers at 28 or the Chiefs at 29.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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