More Banjo - Packers vs. Rams

[Joemailman]

Rodgers - 307 yards passing, 2 TD passes, 1 TD running

Cobb -95 yards and a TD. Hope he's okay.

Adams - 104 yards

Dillon -91 yards and a TD.

Rasul Douglas - Pick 6 and 4 PD's.

Offensive line survived against a great defensive front.

Kicking unit still a concern.

9-3 into the bye week!

Discuss.

[George Cumby]

I'm surprised Rodgers had so many yards passing, it felt like less. If he makes some of those other throws, he hits 350.

They need to make Dillon the #1 and use Jones as the change of pace.

This team keeps winning. Pretty impressive.

The bye is so welcome.

[RashanGary]

We’re due for some injury luck. If we can get a couple of our thoroughbreds back, and don’t lose anyone else and maybe get Rodgers toe healed, who knows, this might be our year.

[RashanGary]

I wonder if Rodgers can heal up a little and then get through a game or two without aggravating it. There’s a chance he could be healthy down the stretch too.

[beveaux1]

I think Joe said in the game day thread that Dillon might look like the number 1 RB because his style fit the weak run blocking of our OL with so many starters out.

I think there’s some truth to that. Jones needs a hole and Dillon makes a hole. They both have soft hands and can catch most balls near them. They are also both great in space.

Dillon also fits winter in Green Bay. He could be the best winter back since Brockington and Lane.

[texaspackerbacker]

First of All, we do NOT need to have Dillon as the primary RB and Jones as the change of pace. Dillon is very very good, for sure, but the team is better when Jones is in there at full strength. If we're talking names from the past, I want another Ahman Green (Jones) as the primary, not another Lacey or Brockington (Dillon) who were damn good, but not as valuable as a true breakaway back.

Secondly, it really is all about Aaron Rodgers. Our O Line wasn't horrible today, but they were far from good too. However, with Rodgers' mobility and quick release, mediocre is plenty good enough. Similarly, Dillon got a lot of yards when the line was pretty mediocre - Jones at 100% would have gotten more, though. No, it's not "Jones needs a hole and Dillon makes a hole"; It's the other way around. Jones jump cuts and squirts through smaller creases than Dillon.

Thirdly, Beckham was actually better than I thought he would be, even though he looked pretty washed up most of the game. However, I'll take Randall Cobb over him in 2021 any day.

Fourthly, this is the kind of game I like - defense is nice, but I prefer a shootout - assuming it ends in a Packer win. This game was nowhere near as close as the score. The Packers dominated what seems like it ought to be the best D in the league.

Fifthly, Coach Drayton deserves positive mention after a lot of the shit he's had thrown at him this season. Cobb's muff was an individual blunder, and the lack of a good kickoff return guy ain't really on the coach. He had his guys fired up to make hard hits and play with discipline on coverage.

Sixthly, I can't help thinking that Crosby is stumbling to the finish line in his career. Hopefully he has enough left in the tank to not fuck things up seriously the rest of this season, and then Molson or somebody else replaces him next season.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers gave a shoutout to EQ. And maybe with Lazard seeming to have regressed, maybe EQ becomes an important player for us down the stretch.

[beveaux1]

Dillon is the only RB we have that can have his hands on the ball 6 consecutive plays with 5 runs and 1 pass caught. Jones can’t hold up to that type of punishment.

Jones is a break away back that has a history of knee problems and has to be used carefully. I think Jones is a real talent, and we should be glad we have him, but for Green Bay in winter, Dillon takes the air out of the ball and can close out a game. He gets better with more carries.

I think as this season progresses, we’ll see Dillon used more than Jones. That means we’re winning the game and closing it out with our running game.

[RashanGary]

Dillon is the only RB we have that can have his hands on the ball 6 consecutive plays with 5 runs and 1 pass caught. Jones can’t hold up to that type of punishment.

Jones is a break away back that has a history of knee problems and has to be used carefully. I think Jones is a real talent, and we should be glad we have him, but for Green Bay in winter, Dillon takes the air out of the ball and can close out a game. He gets better with more carries.

I think as this season progresses, we’ll see Dillon used more than Jones. That means we’re winning the game and closing it out with our running game.

Dillon is more consistent. Jones breaks some big ones that Dillon can’t really. But Jones seems to get tackled for 0-2 yards a lot more often. Dillon moved the pile and gets 3 or 4 every time.

[Guiness]

Did anyone notice when Cobb got hurt? He went out for a play or two earlier, but came back, then just didn't come out of the change room after halftime is all I saw.

He was having a great day

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, Dillon takes the air out of the ball and can close out a game. I said, he can do what he can do very well. The thing is, that should be his main role once Jones is back to 100% - that and spelling Jones and getting maybe 25 or 30% of the runs from scrimmage. Other than running out the clock, I don't want to see any Packer RB get "his hands on the ball 6 consecutive plays with 5 runs and 1 pass caught". We absolutely should be a pass first team, with running the ball being a change of pace. And with our mediocre O Line even in the best of times, neither RB is gonna get very many large open holes to run through. The rare times that does happen, I want Jones carrying the ball. But what about the many times when our O Line does not open a decent hole? We saw Dillon doing a good job of pushing the pile and getting decent yardage maybe half or 2/3 of the time. More than a few other times, though, he was stopped before he could get started and knocked down. This is no criticism of Dillon; It says more about our O Line. What about Jones? He was back today, and he showed some flashes, but basically he wasn't his normal self. Normally, he is a better bet to get good yardage than Dillon when the blocking is deficient - most of the time with our O Line - using shiftiness, jump cuts, speed through very small holes, etc. Also, while Dillon is ok as a receiver, Jones is better and can usually do more when he catches it. I'd say both are about equal for pass blocking. Conclusion: Jones is the near superstar who should be in there most of the time. Dillon is the talented up and comer who should have a big role, but not near as much as Jones.

[MadScientist]

Did anyone notice when Cobb got hurt? He went out for a play or two earlier, but came back, then just didn't come out of the change room after halftime is all I saw.

He was having a great day

There was a play (can't say exactly when) where Cobb was coming out of his break and his foot got stepped on by the defender. Thought it was a foot or ankle injury at the time.

[King Friday]

Jones and Dillon are different backs, and the Packers need to ensure they utilize both to their strengths. In some games, Jones will match up better against the opposing defense, and visa versa. Against athletic defensive fronts that cover well from sideline to sideline, Dillon is the better choice as the battering ram because Jones can't get to the edge effectively against those defenses without our best 5 OL players. However, Jones is still a better receiver out of the backfield. Proclaiming one as a #1 over the other is wrong. The only thing that is definitive to me is that Dillon should ALWAYS be the short yardage back. It is stupid to sit the tree trunks on the sidelines with 1 or 2 yards to gain. He has consistently shown the ability to fall forward in those situations, which is expected. I would still love to see the coaching staff use both backs together on occasion to keep the defense guessing.

[King Friday]

As an aside, the decision to go for 2 to go up by 21 was incredibly stupid. I don't care what the "advanced stats" tell you...to me you don't go for 2 until there is a really strong reason to do so. The difference between 20 and 21 isn't a strong reason, because a myriad of scoring can happen between those numbers. To me, pushing to get to 21 is a desperate sign that you don't trust your own team...because you think you have to have that extra point because you think the other team will score 3 unanswered TDs. The failed 2pt conversion also hands momentum to the other team. I would've felt much better being up 12 points with 4 minutes left than being up 11. Don't chase points based on fuzzy math.

[Joemailman]

Did anyone notice when Cobb got hurt? He went out for a play or two earlier, but came back, then just didn't come out of the change room after halftime is all I saw.

He was having a great day

I'm guessing whatever injury he had tightened up at halftime. That injury was huge. Rams had a tough decision to make on where to line up Jalen Ramsey with Cobb and Adams in there. It became much easier for them in the second half.