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  • #16
    In order for Rodgers to get traded, he'd have to luck into a Tam Brady situation, which does not appear to be on the horizon. Why would Rodgers leave if his best chances are with the Packers?

    Granted, there are teams, as illustrated by the 538 model, where Rodgers increases their chances of winning a SB (including Tampa Bay), but most of those teams have young QBs that probably aren't considering a short term upgrade with a long term downside.

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    • #17
      And given that Love doesn't appear up to the task, management may continue to further efforts to keep 12 happy.

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      • #18
        Rodgers would both potentially be an upgrade and upgrade his own personal SB chances in:

        Pittsburgh: cap strapped and trending down, the team would love to trade but Rodgers doesn't benefit
        New England: they have the same problem with receivers that Green Bay has had, in fact much worse, and the have a decent QB with three years left on his rookie deal, I don't think it makes sense on either side
        New Orleans: perhaps the best trade partner, especially considering Gute has made deals with them before, but they are also strapped for cash and Michael Thomas is a basket case
        Washington: ownership is terrible, but otherwise the team is solid, and I wouldn't mind Heineke in a Packer uni. Still, it seems like at BEST a lateral move for Rodgers
        Baltimore: good destination for A-Rod, but they have a good QB already who is much younger and it would be a PR nightmare for Baltimore to make this trade
        Denver: good destination, but they've already started disassembling for a rebuild that probably precludes them from the Rodgers sweepstakes
        Buffalo: good roster, good team, but Allen is perhaps the best talent at QB aside from Mahomes in the league, so what would be the motivation for the Bills?
        Cincy: ascending roster with talented skill position players, but why would the Bengals move on from Burrow so quickly? Would the whole team really be an upgrade for Rodgers? This division is tough!
        Cleveland: stacked roster even without OBJ, and definitely needy for an upgrade at QB, but does Cleveland really seem like a Rodgers kinda town?
        Tampa: would be an upgrade for the Bucs, but would be incredibly unpopular with fans and teammates unless Brady retires

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        • #19
          Good arguments for him to stay put.

          What about LA? Are they contractually married to Stafford?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
            Good arguments for him to stay put.

            What about LA? Are they contractually married to Stafford?
            No. Stafford received no signing bonus. He has a 10M roster bonus due 3/21. Rams can cut him or trade him before that date and he counts nothing on their cap. I think they're the most attractive spot for Rodgers outside of Green Bay.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Rodgers obviously isn't going anyplace. If he did, the Houston Texans would be a more likely place than any of the others mentioned, but it ain't gonna happen there or anywhere else.

              Adams will be re-signed - assuming Rodgers stays. As I said, literally everybody worth keeping on that list will be back. The most likely exception is Z. Smith because the massive savings by dumping him outweigh the benefit he brings.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                Rodgers obviously isn't going anyplace. If he did, the Houston Texans would be a more likely place than any of the others mentioned, but it ain't gonna happen there or anywhere else.

                Adams will be re-signed - assuming Rodgers stays. As I said, literally everybody worth keeping on that list will be back. The most likely exception is Z. Smith because the massive savings by dumping him outweigh the benefit he brings.
                There is no way Rodgers would agree to go to a train wreck of an organization like Houston.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  No. Stafford received no signing bonus. He has a 10M roster bonus due 3/21. Rams can cut him or trade him before that date and he counts nothing on their cap. I think they're the most attractive spot for Rodgers outside of Green Bay.
                  That team is not built to compete in 2022 and beyond. Why would Rodgers go to them when the team is about to explode? Perhaps the better question is: Why would the Packers deal to them? They have nothing in terms of draft capital to send in return.

                  Why the fuck would Rodgers want to go to the Texans, tex? Their coaching situation is horrible and their team is not in a good position to compete for a championship next year.

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                  • #24
                    Shaping up to be a 'Better the Devil You Know' for Rodgers.

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                    • #25
                      I generally agree with the assessment that Rodgers doesn't have a lot of options where he is going to walk in to a new team and immediately have a markedly better chance to win than he does in Green Bay. This is all about Rodgers and Adams. If Adams wants to break the bank, then the Packers will be going into a reset. If Adams is willing to stay at a slight discount because Rodgers will stay and rework his contact, the Packers will have room to keep the most important guys and still have a roster capable of winning a title.

                      Hell, look at what we are doing this year with several nobodies that we had no clue about 4 months ago. Gute has really found a lot of overlooked gems in the last year...need to keep that rolling.
                      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                        Rodgers would both potentially be an upgrade and upgrade his own personal SB chances in:

                        Pittsburgh: cap strapped and trending down, the team would love to trade but Rodgers doesn't benefit
                        New England: they have the same problem with receivers that Green Bay has had, in fact much worse, and the have a decent QB with three years left on his rookie deal, I don't think it makes sense on either side
                        New Orleans: perhaps the best trade partner, especially considering Gute has made deals with them before, but they are also strapped for cash and Michael Thomas is a basket case
                        Washington: ownership is terrible, but otherwise the team is solid, and I wouldn't mind Heineke in a Packer uni. Still, it seems like at BEST a lateral move for Rodgers
                        Baltimore: good destination for A-Rod, but they have a good QB already who is much younger and it would be a PR nightmare for Baltimore to make this trade
                        Denver: good destination, but they've already started disassembling for a rebuild that probably precludes them from the Rodgers sweepstakes
                        Buffalo: good roster, good team, but Allen is perhaps the best talent at QB aside from Mahomes in the league, so what would be the motivation for the Bills?
                        Cincy: ascending roster with talented skill position players, but why would the Bengals move on from Burrow so quickly? Would the whole team really be an upgrade for Rodgers? This division is tough!
                        Cleveland: stacked roster even without OBJ, and definitely needy for an upgrade at QB, but does Cleveland really seem like a Rodgers kinda town?
                        Tampa: would be an upgrade for the Bucs, but would be incredibly unpopular with fans and teammates unless Brady retires
                        In what way do you think Denver has disassembled beyond trading Von Miler? I genuinely don't know.

                        I would say Cleveland looks like a really nice fit. Lots of talent. John Dorsey affect of a great roster.

                        Here's a crazy idea - what about the Rams? They send back Stafford. This only makes sense in the event Rodgers is demanding a trade.

                        New Orleans looks like a very talented and deep team. Rodgers would like that I'm sure.

                        Miami could be a good fit but the owner is trash.

                        Pittsburgh makes a ton of sense.

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                        • #27
                          Pittsburgh's roster is not that good anymore. They would not be an upgrade to Green Bay...at best a neutral move where Rodgers still has to spend a lot of effort learning a new system and players.

                          The Rams have to be facing a difficult cap situation in the years ahead as well. They can't possibly keep all the talent on their roster moving forward unless they are all going to take significant discounts.

                          Denver and Cleveland are probably the most likely...as I think Rodgers views having a great defense as necessary to be a title contender. The Packers resurgence on defense this year has probably been the largest thing that will give him pause to leave Green Bay. He has a great defense here. He also has a great offense that he is extremely comfortable in. Leaving that for what is going to be an unknown wherever he goes is a huge risk at this point in his career. Just look at Stafford. Everyone thought he would be the missing piece in LA...and it is possible he will still make that happen...but it looks less and less likely each week.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                            That team is not built to compete in 2022 and beyond. Why would Rodgers go to them when the team is about to explode? Perhaps the better question is: Why would the Packers deal to them? They have nothing in terms of draft capital to send in return.

                            Why the fuck would Rodgers want to go to the Texans, tex? Their coaching situation is horrible and their team is not in a good position to compete for a championship next year.
                            I really don't think that he would - I say again, he ain't going anywhere, but for the sake of argument, it would feed his ego big time if he could take supposedly the worst team and make them a winner. Besides, here, there, or anywhere, there's no reason to expect that next year is all there is for him.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • #29
                              I don't think Rams can really trade for Rodgers -- what would they trade? Would have to be players; they've traded away basically their entire 2022 draft picks, and they gave up their 2023 R1 for Stafford too. Maybe they could send Aaron Donald back? Does that help your cap?
                              I could maybe see PIT -- they have some good players, that team would be a LOT better swapping out Ben R. for Rodgers. Ben has lost his legs and his arm is a shell of what it was in terms of velocity and accuracy. CLE would be interesting, partly because of all the stuff around Baker and that is a team with pieces Rodgers could play with. Stefanski's not a terrible coach and they have picks/players they could swap. Baker, JOK, and a R1 for Rodgers? LOL Agree Denver is another place, maybe Miami. Tua and Waddle for Rodgers? Houston is going to want to move Watson, so that muddies things as well.
                              I could see SF, especially if Shanahan loses patience with Lance. Not sure what they have for picks after sending 3 first rounders to MIA to pick him.

                              Agree the best solution is to extend Rodgers a couple of years. Love won't be happy, but he isn't ready yet either. Rodgers turns 38 on Thursday; I think he has 2, maybe 3 good seasons left after this one tbh. QBs who both survive and thrive in the league past 40 are very rare. Favre's last year was not pretty. Hell, look at Warren Moon, Vinny Testaverde, or the stats of any other QB not named Brady after 40.

                              GB has cooked their cap and it will go up significantly over the next few years (assuming no more pandemics or major global economic crises) which will help if they can push more money out into the future... sooner or later they will have to eat some of that and let good players go though.
                              Z will be the first domino. He's a really good player, but a 29 year old edge defender with a back injury has to concern the FO...especially one that costs $20M.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                                That team is not built to compete in 2022 and beyond. Why would Rodgers go to them when the team is about to explode? Perhaps the better question is: Why would the Packers deal to them? They have nothing in terms of draft capital to send in return.

                                Why the fuck would Rodgers want to go to the Texans, tex? Their coaching situation is horrible and their team is not in a good position to compete for a championship next year.
                                The Rams would be more than willing to trade their first round choice in *checks notes* 2024.
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