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  • #16
    Thanks, fellas!!

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    • #17
      Alright, so, who's the MVP? I genuinely have no idea. Probably Brady or Rodgers depending on end of season record.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        Alright, so, who's the MVP? I genuinely have no idea. Probably Brady or Rodgers depending on end of season record.
        That's the way it looks. Early on, it looked like Kyler Murray, but he slowed a bit and then missed 3 games. Guys like Justin Herbert, Josh Allen and Mahomes would be right up there if not for double-digit interceptions.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #19
          As of November 30

          Who Is Favored In NFL MVP Odds?
          2021 NFL MVP Odds
          Player Odds
          Tom Brady +250
          Josh Allen +450
          Aaron Rodgers +600
          Patrick Mahomes +900
          Kyler Murray +1000
          Dak Prescott +1400
          Matthew Stafford +1400
          Lamar Jackson +1500
          Jonathan Taylor +1800
          Justin Herbert +1800
          Derek Carr +5000
          Kirk Cousins +5000
          Joe Burrow +5500
          Cooper Kupp +7500
          Mac Jones +10000
          Ryan Tannehill +10000
          Jalen Hurts +15000
          Aaron Donald +20000
          Carson Wentz +20000
          Deebo Samuel +20000
          Jimmy Garoppolo +20000
          Matt Ryan +20000
          Myles Garrett +20000
          Travis Kelce +20000
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #20
            Rodgers will have to finish really strong to win it. With the OL the way it is, I just don’t expect a 2020 type finish.

            Plus Rodgers is up a game on most of those guys. The numbers will separate even further after the bye.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Nobody is running away with it (none of the QBs are matching the best numbers put up in recent years), so don’t sleep on ya’lls guy Jonathan Taylor. Dude is nearly on pace to match Derrick Henry’s total yards from last year, and he already has 16 TDs. Henry had 17 TDs last year. Brady, Herbert, Allen, and Mahomes already have 9-11 interceptions on the year. Taylor has an outside chance, but only if the Colts run off like 4 wins in their last 5 games.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #22
                Colts have three games where they’ll be favored. They need to win those and then beat either New England at home or at Arizona.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #23
                  Big game for Taylor today. 143 yards and 2 TD's. That puts him at about 1350 yards and 16 TD's with 4 games to go. If he can get close to 2000 and maybe 20 TD's, he'll have a chance. Brady had 4 TD passes today. That puts him at 34 with 5 games to go.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #24
                    Brady is the most strange QB because he's playing kind of below average when his receivers aren't wide open, but he has all these great numbers. I think he might even be a bottom-10 starter, but he's leading the league in TD passes. Certainly not passing the eye test, but threw 4 TDs today, so I feel like he's definitely in the driver seat. If he wins, he would be the worst player to win an MVP in recent memory.

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                    • #25
                      Brady is not a below average quarterback in any facet - Brady is the greatest QB in NFL history.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Big game for Taylor today. 143 yards and 2 TD's. That puts him at about 1350 yards and 16 TD's with 4 games to go. If he can get close to 2000 and maybe 20 TD's, he'll have a chance. Brady had 4 TD passes today. That puts him at 34 with 5 games to go.
                        Add the 2 receiving TDs and he’s up to 18 + around 340 yards receiving.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          Brady is smart - he has put himself in a situation in which he's got great talent surrounding him (thanks to his taking a lower-than-you'd-think contract), and they make him look good. Opposite of what Tex thinks Rodgers does.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #28
                            Oh, I wouldn't say opposite, Brady just does it to a greater degree. Rodgers probably could get more money if he really tried, too. He's just not taking as much of a discounted amount as Brady probably is. And Rodgers is obviously with a good team too, just not a matter of switching to a hand-picked some would say stacked team like Brady. The bottom line is, Rodgers clearly is the better player of the two/the GOAT. Rodgers is good enough to make everybody else on the offense, probably everybody on the team better. Brady may do that to some extent too, but not nearly as much in his best years and less now.
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                            • #29
                              I'll never forget that time about seven or eight years ago, when one of the GB writers, McGinn, I think, wrote an article about how the Packers were finally, finally talented enough to win if Rodgers got hurt and had to be out. Then, of course, Rodgers got hurt, and the Packers proceeded to suck. They looked awful.

                              That was some nasty karma for McGinn.

                              I do think though that this year's team is actually better than that team was. Against KC, the defense played well enough to keep them in the game, albeit with help from Mahomes's lousy day. Now if only the special teams was even okay . . .
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #30
                                The Rodgers Covid game says it all about how good the Packers are without him.
                                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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