Coaches on the Hot Seat

[call_me_ishmael]

Stenovich is considered by many to be an up and coming coach. Funnily enough, I thought he sounded like he weak link when milf put the coaching staff together.

I actually think Zimmer is a pretty good coach. Who are they going to get that's better and perform better?

[smuggler]

Just look at the fact that the best QB in the rookie class is on the best coached team.

Must be Numerology at work. But you're absolutely right. It takes two to tango. Gotta have at least good coaching to go along with a solid roster and those special few players.

The players with the best success are historic talents combined with quality supporting cast (O/D/ST all together), quality coaching and organizational support, and a little bit of luck.

[call_me_ishmael]

Must be Numerology at work. But you're absolutely right. It takes two to tango. Gotta have at least good coaching to go along with a solid roster and those special few players.

The players with the best success are historic talents combined with quality supporting cast (O/D/ST all together), quality coaching and organizational support, and a little bit of luck.

They are also the best roster and ask him to do the least. But yeah, I agree, coaching puts players in position to play to their strengths and the teams strengths. Belichick is next level, so is Matty MILF.

[smuggler]

Is MLF's middle name Ian? If so, it works.

E: It's Patrick. But he went to Saginaw Valley State, which makes him the third member of the illustrious SVS alumni trio of Packers - the other two being Ruvell Martin and Jeff Janis.

[Sparkey]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-jaguars-players-coaches-fed-up-with-urban-meyer-on-and-off-field-173919802.html

I am surprised UM is still there.

[run pMc]

Absolutely agree coaching matters. Mike Pettine wasn't a terrible DC, but he rarely if ever got the defense to play up to the sum of its parts. I'm not a Barry fan but he's got them playing better than their sum. I don't think Pettine would be able to withstand losing Jaire & Z, and put the remaining players in position to succeed. (Of course players matter too.)

Zimmer is probably the best HC Minny's had since Denny Green, but he makes some McCarthian mistakes and is too wed to locking down the offense. Minnesota is a high variability team -- one half they look like a contender, the next they look like morons.
I've come to believe you need a good DC, but you want a HC with an offensive background. I don't have any stats in front of me, but I think they tend to do better. Zimmer's got a good defensive mind, but he needs to let the OC run that side of things without interfering. Also, they probably shouldn't go the nepotism route and go from father to son with the Kubiaks.

I think Urban and Nagy are gone. Fangio is a very good DC and could land a job doing that immediately if he chose to, but I don't think he's an above average HC.

Joe Judge should probably be gone -- that team makes dumb mistakes. I'm not sold on Daniel Jones either, but that's another story.

Flores might be gone, but they are doing better now and he's had a lot of garbage and young players to deal with... I think he's actually done a pretty decent job considering where he started, but this year they were underperforming until recently.

Bisaccia won't be back. If you keep your interim coach you're asking for trouble.

Campbell gets a pass because Detroit is in full rebuild mode, and 12 games in it doesn't look like he's lost his team, which is saying something. He gets 3 years (including this one) to show something, barring an Urban Meyer like meltdown.

[Joemailman]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...le-jaguars-win

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- If the Jaguars are going to turn things around and start winning games and competing for the playoffs, the drama that has engulfed the franchise has to stop. That's coming from the most important person on the roster: quarterback Trevor Lawrence.

"You're always going to have some form of drama. I've learned that the NFL is just more drama in general than college, no matter where you're at," Lawrence said Wednesday. "But you're right. There's been a lot. To your point, I do think that has to change and that's something that we need to work on for sure.

"So you can't always be in the headlines. You just got to go play football and that's where we're trying to get and I have no doubt we'll get there, but for sure [it has to change]."

Just hours after Lawrence made that comment in his weekly news conference, a report surfaced from the Tampa Bay Times in which former Jaguars kicker Josh Lambo alleged that head coach Urban Meyer kicked him in the leg while stretching in warm-ups before a practice during the week of the final preseason game.

Lambo said Meyer told him, "Hey Dips---, make your f---ing kicks!" and then kicked him in the leg. Lambo characterized the kick as a five out of 10 and then told the Tampa Bay Times he told Meyer: "Don't you ever f---ing kick me again!" Lambo said Meyer told him, "I'm the head ball coach. I'll kick you whenever the f--- I want."

Meyer's agent provided the Tampa Bay Times a statement in which the coach said Lambo's "characterization of me and this incident is completely inaccurate and there are eyewitnesses to refute his account."

Probably the last thing you want is your head coach creating distractions and controversies that the players have to deal with. Hard to come up with a reason for keeping Meyer another year.

[George Cumby]

When a 22 year old kid makes more sense than you as an almost 60 year old man, you might be an asshole.

[Joemailman]

When a 22 year old kid makes more sense than you as an almost 60 year old man, you might be an asshole.

I thought the same thing. Lawrence is displaying more leadership than Meyer has all year.

[call_me_ishmael]

I am honestly shocked that Urban didn't take a college job. Here's a hot take: He wasn't offered one because despite his obvious talent and track record he isn't worth the headache (which means he is one gigantic pain in the ass lol)

[Bretsky]

I am honestly shocked that Urban didn't take a college job. Here's a hot take: He wasn't offered one because despite his obvious talent and track record he isn't worth the headache (which means he is one gigantic pain in the ass lol)

Urban's mojo is to always walk away on his own terms. He doesn't wanna be perceived as a quitter just yet. And he probably knows if he gets fired, he gets to keep a SHITLOAD of Money and there is a good chance that is right around the corner. To his downfall, the Jags owner has always been incredibility intrigued by Urban Meyer. His bias on this without consideration for the massive ego, arrogance, and lack of a fit in the pro game were things he was unable to see

[Joemailman]

Meyer has been fired.

"After deliberation over many weeks and a thorough analysis of the entirety of Urban's tenure with our team, I am bitterly disappointed to arrive at the conclusion that an immediate change is imperative for everyone," Khan said in a statement. "I informed Urban of the change this evening. As I stated in October, regaining our trust and respect was essential. Regrettably, it did not happen."

Khan's statement added: "In the spirit of closure and recharging our players, staff and fan base, I will not comment further until some point following the conclusion of the NFL season."

Offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell will serve as the interim head coach for the remainder of the season and GM Trent Baalke will remain in place, Khan's statement said.

[Bretsky]

Meyer has been fired.

MEYER IS SUCH AN ASSSSSS

Part of me thinks he knew he was over his head and wanted this; HE GETS TO KEEP THE MONEY, RIGHT ??????

Bevell will be a nice transition guy for Lawrence. I'd love to see him as a head coach; I loved him as a Badger. Classed undertalented smart overachiever. But I think that one bad play call in the SB may haunt him forever.

In the end, everybody in college football hates Urban Meyer, except the fan base he coaches for because he's slimy but a great college FB coach.

I hope he never coaches again

[Anti-Polar Bear]

MEYER IS SUCH AN ASSSSSS

Part of me thinks he knew he was over his head and wanted this; HE GETS TO KEEP THE MONEY, RIGHT ??????

Bevell will be a nice transition guy for Lawrence. I'd love to see him as a head coach; I loved him as a Badger. Classed undertalented smart overachiever. But I think that one bad play call in the SB may haunt him forever.

In the end, everybody in college football hates Urban Meyer, except the fan base he coaches for because he's slimy but a great college FB coach.

I hope he never coaches again

Fire Paul Chryst, he who hasn’t won shit at the flagship Wisconsin U and he who can’t recruit hotshot QBs.

Bring in the multi-national champ Meyers! On, Wisconsin!

[Tony Oday]

Zimmer might be the most overrated coach in the NFL. His defenses suck, his offenses suck, his record is 75-54 even with spending to the cap every year, a solid QB, top 5 WR pairing year in and year out and elite players on defense. I want him to sign a lifetime contract with the Vikings.