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Originally posted by George Cumby View PostShow me one of those handy dandy graphics!
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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So how much is enough to keep the defense honest? If you throw two or three deep balls, but one or two go for TD's, is that enough? Or does one have to keep challenging them deep, despite not getting TD's?Originally posted by smuggler View Post20% of Rodgers' pass attempts in this game traveled more than 15 yards in the air. Brady's clip was 9.5% in his mos recent tilt, despite having much better pass pro and a stable of great receivers.
I just perceive that Rodgers goes deep a lot instead of being patient and taking what's available.
I'd prefer more sustained drives instead of run, pass deep, pass deep, punt.
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Watching Brady over the years, he’s definitely more patient than Rodgers. He might not be as talented overall, but his patient mindset makes him slightly better at winning games. Of course, it’s easier to be patient when you’re playing year in and year out with upper echelon defense.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostSo how much is enough to keep the defense honest? If you throw two or three deep balls, but one or two go for TD's, is that enough? Or does one have to keep challenging them deep, despite not getting TD's?
I just perceive that Rodgers goes deep a lot instead of being patient and taking what's available.
I'd prefer more sustained drives instead of run, pass deep, pass deep, punt.
I think this year Rodgers is playing elite ball though. He’s really getting it out quick and making up for the so/so offensive line. I don’t see a lot of forcing deep passes this year. That was more in the past.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I agree with your first paragraph on every point.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostWatching Brady over the years, he’s definitely more patient than Rodgers. He might not be as talented overall, but his patient mindset makes him slightly better at winning games. Of course, it’s easier to be patient when you’re playing year in and year out with upper echelon defense.
I think this year Rodgers is playing elite ball though. He’s really getting it out quick and making up for the so/so offensive line. I don’t see a lot of forcing deep passes this year. That was more in the past.
I don't see what you're seeing on Rodgers this year. My perception is his accuracy is off. The OL is definitely not what it was last year and that has to be effecting him.
My sense is this is an off year for him. I'm waiting for Joe to pull out some facts and figures to show my sense/perception/opinion is wrong.
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Cobb out with significant core injury. Speculation is out with a hernia for 6-8 weeks, so his season is likely over."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostCobb out with significant core injury. Speculation is out with a hernia for 6-8 weeks, so his season is likely over.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I don’t judge on stats or outcome. If that were the way of judging, last year would be significantly better ball than this year or 2019. I look at what he’s doing with what he has. There is a correction for OL play in my measurement. He’s doing a lot this year with less talent on offense. The quick delivery and managing the OL…. The stats don’t look as good but I think he’s playing just as well with a lesser team.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostI agree with your first paragraph on every point.
I don't see what you're seeing on Rodgers this year. My perception is his accuracy is off. The OL is definitely not what it was last year and that has to be effecting him.
My sense is this is an off year for him. I'm waiting for Joe to pull out some facts and figures to show my sense/perception/opinion is wrong.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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We'll have to see who the GM is next year before we can say he's not coming back . . .Originally posted by Joemailman View Post3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Given what he's produced this year, 28 catches, 375 yards, 5 TD's, I'm glad Houston is paying his salary.Originally posted by Joemailman View Post3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season.
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Fair enough.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI don’t judge on stats or outcome. If that were the way of judging, last year would be significantly better ball than this year or 2019. I look at what he’s doing with what he has. There is a correction for OL play in my measurement. He’s doing a lot this year with less talent on offense. The quick delivery and managing the OL…. The stats don’t look as good but I think he’s playing just as well with a lesser team.
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