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  • #16
    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    I don't think it's a matter of patience. Rodgers believes you have to take some deep shots to keep defenses honest.
    Show me one of those handy dandy graphics!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
      Show me one of those handy dandy graphics!
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        20% of Rodgers' pass attempts in this game traveled more than 15 yards in the air. Brady's clip was 9.5% in his mos recent tilt, despite having much better pass pro and a stable of great receivers.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by smuggler View Post
          20% of Rodgers' pass attempts in this game traveled more than 15 yards in the air. Brady's clip was 9.5% in his mos recent tilt, despite having much better pass pro and a stable of great receivers.
          So how much is enough to keep the defense honest? If you throw two or three deep balls, but one or two go for TD's, is that enough? Or does one have to keep challenging them deep, despite not getting TD's?

          I just perceive that Rodgers goes deep a lot instead of being patient and taking what's available.

          I'd prefer more sustained drives instead of run, pass deep, pass deep, punt.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
            So how much is enough to keep the defense honest? If you throw two or three deep balls, but one or two go for TD's, is that enough? Or does one have to keep challenging them deep, despite not getting TD's?

            I just perceive that Rodgers goes deep a lot instead of being patient and taking what's available.

            I'd prefer more sustained drives instead of run, pass deep, pass deep, punt.
            Watching Brady over the years, he’s definitely more patient than Rodgers. He might not be as talented overall, but his patient mindset makes him slightly better at winning games. Of course, it’s easier to be patient when you’re playing year in and year out with upper echelon defense.

            I think this year Rodgers is playing elite ball though. He’s really getting it out quick and making up for the so/so offensive line. I don’t see a lot of forcing deep passes this year. That was more in the past.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              Watching Brady over the years, he’s definitely more patient than Rodgers. He might not be as talented overall, but his patient mindset makes him slightly better at winning games. Of course, it’s easier to be patient when you’re playing year in and year out with upper echelon defense.

              I think this year Rodgers is playing elite ball though. He’s really getting it out quick and making up for the so/so offensive line. I don’t see a lot of forcing deep passes this year. That was more in the past.
              I agree with your first paragraph on every point.

              I don't see what you're seeing on Rodgers this year. My perception is his accuracy is off. The OL is definitely not what it was last year and that has to be effecting him.

              My sense is this is an off year for him. I'm waiting for Joe to pull out some facts and figures to show my sense/perception/opinion is wrong.

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              • #22
                In some games, I might agree. Not since he came back from Covid, though. He's been elite.

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                • #23
                  Cobb out with significant core injury. Speculation is out with a hernia for 6-8 weeks, so his season is likely over.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    Cobb out with significant core injury. Speculation is out with a hernia for 6-8 weeks, so his season is likely over.
                    3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      I agree with your first paragraph on every point.

                      I don't see what you're seeing on Rodgers this year. My perception is his accuracy is off. The OL is definitely not what it was last year and that has to be effecting him.

                      My sense is this is an off year for him. I'm waiting for Joe to pull out some facts and figures to show my sense/perception/opinion is wrong.
                      I don’t judge on stats or outcome. If that were the way of judging, last year would be significantly better ball than this year or 2019. I look at what he’s doing with what he has. There is a correction for OL play in my measurement. He’s doing a lot this year with less talent on offense. The quick delivery and managing the OL…. The stats don’t look as good but I think he’s playing just as well with a lesser team.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season.
                        We'll have to see who the GM is next year before we can say he's not coming back . . .
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          3rd time in 4 years Cobb will miss 5 or more games. If it's 6 weeks he could be back for divisional round of playoffs. If not, he may have played his last game as a Packer. He has a 7.9M base salary next season.
                          Given what he's produced this year, 28 catches, 375 yards, 5 TD's, I'm glad Houston is paying his salary.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            We'll have to see who the GM is next year before we can say he's not coming back . . .
                            Hahahahaha.

                            Took me a minute.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              I don’t judge on stats or outcome. If that were the way of judging, last year would be significantly better ball than this year or 2019. I look at what he’s doing with what he has. There is a correction for OL play in my measurement. He’s doing a lot this year with less talent on offense. The quick delivery and managing the OL…. The stats don’t look as good but I think he’s playing just as well with a lesser team.
                              Fair enough.

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                              • #30
                                I just hope they both wear traditional uniforms.
                                Hate the alternate crap for old school match ups

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