Packers Browns discussion

[RashanGary]

Kenny Clark back at practice. No MVS.

That’s really good news. It’s lining up for the Packers. A worst case scenario would have been a high wind game. Then we would be in a rushing battle vs a good run offense and a good run defense. I would predict a loss in a wind game.

But the wind is in our favor with passing an option and Clark coming back after a nice week of rest is good for both the pass and run defense. We should be ready to roll up the Browns on Saturday.

[Joemailman]

Kenny Clark and MVS on Covid list, so so not appear on injury report.

[Joemailman]

Davante Adams needs 33 receiving yards to pass Jordy Nelson for 5th all time on Packers. He passed Jordy last week for 2nd all time in TD catches.

Aaron Jones needs 123 rushing yards to pass Ryan Grant for 5th all time on Packers.

Aaron Rodgers needs 1 rushing TD to pass Clark Hinkle for 6th all time on Packers.

[Fritz]

Davante Adams needs 33 receiving yards to pass Jordy Nelson for 5th all time on Packers. He passed Jordy last week for 2nd all time in TD catches.

Aaron Jones needs 123 rushing yards to pass Ryan Grant for 5th all time on Packers.

Aaron Rodgers needs 1 rushing TD to pass Clark Hinkle for 6th all time on Packers.

Out-of-left-field question: would the Packers consider bringing in Bashaud Breeland as a possible upgrade over Kevin King? And would he be an upgrade?

[Joemailman]

Out-of-left-field question: would the Packers consider bringing in Bashaud Breeland as a possible upgrade over Kevin King? And would he be an upgrade?

No. Maybe. Don't know how well he's been playing. Packers aren't going to bring in a guy who was released because of altercations with coaches.

[George Cumby]

How badly is King playing this year? It appears the new coaching staff has helped him fix some of his problems?

Or is he just not on the field enough for us to see him?

[bobblehead]

This is an Aaron Rodgers game. If we had any other QB with our shattered OL against that Browns front I would predict a VERY long day and be betting the under with both fists. With Rodgers I think we can find a way to put 24 on the board and Cleveland will run effectively on us, but Baker just isn't that good. We should win this game, but it will be uglier than most here think.

[texaspackerbacker]

When you're right, you're right, bobblehead. (no politics intended hahahaha)

[RashanGary]

Packers lead all-time series with Browns 13-7.

Last meeting: 12/10/2017. Packers defeated the Browns at Cleveland 27-21 in overtime. Brett Hundley threw for 265 yards and 3 TD's. Davante Adams had 10 catches for 84 yards and 2 TD's. DeShone Kizer was the starting QB for Cleveland. He threw for 214 yards, with 3 TD's and 2 INT's. The Browns would go 0-16 that season.

The Browns have the 19th ranked offense, 25th in passing and 5th in rushing. In 12 games, Baker Mayfield has thrown for 2603 yards with 13 TD passes and 7 INT's. Nick Chubb has rushed for 1017 yards and 7 TD's. Donovan Peoples-Jones leads the Browns with 478 yards receiving. TE David Njoku has 436 yards and 3 TD's. Jarvis Landry is a good possession receiver who has missed several games but should be playing on Sunday.

Defensively, Browns rank 5th overall, 8th in passing and 9th in rushing. Opposing QB's have thrown for 3025 yards with 24 TD's and 12 INT's. Opponents have rushed for 1479 yards and 12 TD's. The Browns have sacked opposing QB's 37 times, which ranks 6th. Myles Garrett, who is questionable for this week, has 15 sacks.

I’ll be patient next time and wait for a discussion thread. I appreciate your summaries.

On a different note, Kenny Clark has been reinstated from the reserve/Covid list. I like our momentum going into this game. I like the Browns playing Monday and then having to travel for Saturday. I like that the wind is going to be low so we can have a balanced attack and lean on our QB. Everything has fallen in our favor going into this game. Browns are tough, but I like our chances.

[RashanGary]

We have progressively easier games.

Baltimore, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit. We could get some bad luck and have a wind game against Minny. I don’t like Dalvin Cook vs Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. Cook is the best player of the three and a wind game would play to Minnesotas greatest strength. Same would have been true with Cleveland.

But things are falling in our favor. Maybe we’ll get really lucky and get some of our guys back for the stretch run. Alexander, Stokes and Rasul has a nice ring to it.

[call_me_ishmael]

This is an Aaron Rodgers game. If we had any other QB with our shattered OL against that Browns front I would predict a VERY long day and be betting the under with both fists. With Rodgers I think we can find a way to put 24 on the board and Cleveland will run effectively on us, but Baker just isn't that good. We should win this game, but it will be uglier than most here think.

Pretty much this. I expect them to win by 7.

[Fritz]

JC Tretter out, right? That will help the Pack to try to stop the Browms' run game and put it all on Baker Mayfield's noodle arm.

[texaspackerbacker]

We have progressively easier games.

Baltimore, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit. We could get some bad luck and have a wind game against Minny. I don’t like Dalvin Cook vs Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. Cook is the best player of the three and a wind game would play to Minnesotas greatest strength. Same would have been true with Cleveland.

But things are falling in our favor. Maybe we’ll get really lucky and get some of our guys back for the stretch run. Alexander, Stokes and Rasul has a nice ring to it.

We have progressively easier games.

Baltimore, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit. We could get some bad luck and have a wind game against Minny. I don’t like Dalvin Cook vs Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. Cook is the best player of the three and a wind game would play to Minnesotas greatest strength. Same would have been true with Cleveland.

But things are falling in our favor. Maybe we’ll get really lucky and get some of our guys back for the stretch run. Alexander, Stokes and Rasul has a nice ring to it.

I disagree that Cook is better than Aaron Jones. Jones can do more things and has better moves. Cook probably has more straight line speed, although Jones is pretty damn fast too. and of course, the Vikings or almost nobody else has a change of pace road grader like Dillon.

Unless you're talking about a hurricane or something like that Pats/Bills game, I think you're overrating wind as a factor too. I've seen Aaron Rodgers' spirals cut through some significant breezes at times.

Where Cleveland might have an advantage is Myles Garrett, but supposedly if he plays, is less than 100%.

As for the downward progression, maybe. I'm not sure that the Vikings are worse than Cleveland, though.

[Fritz]

Cleveland is going to be tough. They are fighting for their playoff lives and have a good defense. If the Pack can't stop the Brownie running game, there could be an upset.

[kcpackman]

Cleveland is going to be tough. They are fighting for their playoff lives and have a good defense. If the Pack can't stop the Brownie running game, there could be an upset.

I completely agree. My gut tells that the Packers may be overlooking this game. I hope I am wrong, but my gut is usually correct.