More Banjo - Packers vs. Lions II

[texaspackerbacker]

It doesn't seem to be just a matter of learning and experience for Love. His problem(s) seen to be arm strength, accuracy, and mobility. And those things are not likely to improve greatly over the years.

[Fritz]

After what happened on Sunday, I could see David Moore elevated to 53 man roster and Amari Rodgers inactive.

Hear, hear. I just don't think you can trust Amari Rodgers, especially not in the playoffs. If you keep Moore as the return guy, you can use Winfree or Taylor as your final WR. And it's not like you needed Rodgers to run those jet sweeps . . . St. Brown did better than the couple of times I think Rodgers got it on a jet sweep.

[Joemailman]

Not sure what to make of this but I thought it was kinda funny. https://twitter.com/i/status/1480940780151840777

[George Cumby]

Not sure what to make of this but I thought it was kinda funny. https://twitter.com/i/status/1480940780151840777

"Is that a Pancreas?!" LOL.

That was fucking funny.

[Fritz]

I really don't know if that will be the case. He hasn't been anything that shows high flashes of promise or not terrible either. Not sure I see a huge upside but I think he might be able to be an average QB as well.

RUMOR HAS IT another team loved him, and their QB sucks. Maybe we should reach out to Indy

You're not going to get anything for Love right now. No reason to trade him, as you've just spent the past two years developing him. Keep him for a backup next year, and try to get some better film. Then see where things are in terms of Rodgers's health and whatnot (I'm assuming in this scenario that the team signs Rodgers to a three-or-four-year deal), and then you can move Love and maybe get something in return. At this point, I doubt they could get anything more than maybe a fourth round pick for the guy.

As for the Lions' game, that left a sour taste in a lot of mouths, but maybe that's good. The team needs to get fired up. I am not feeling great about the D, but they did play pretty well in Minny. I'd like to see that defense from about seven weeks ago - when they tackled really well. Devondre Campbell seems to be the tone-setter in that regard. Guys would catch a ball out of the backfield and bam, they were down. Corners were fighting through blocks on wide receiver screens. That sure tackling was a big part of why they played well.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers signs a 4 or 5 year deal. Gets him to age 42 or 43. I don’t think he’ll play past that.

Someone said that last August....who was it again?

[bobblehead]

I thought Love looked shaky every play. It isn't the receivers or the rest of team. Love has no composure or confidence. Doesn't look like a gamer.

Funny thing is, that was my exact assessment of Rodgers back when. I remember we played SD in preseason and I compared Rodgers to Phillip Rivers. My conclusion was that Rodgers just didn't see things quickly like Rivers and would not have near the career Rivers would.

That was when I learned not to be a sith and speak in absolutes until it was an absolute.

edit: But I do agree with your assessment. That is the way it appeared to me as well. I'm just not writing Jordan Love off yet.

[bobblehead]

You started out real good, but then you came with that sacrifice crap that reflects lack of understanding of the cap. Tonyan and Campbell will NOT be gone, nor will Douglas, P. Smith, obviously not Jaire, not MVS, who else that is worth keeping is even close? I can't think of anybody.

Tex...YOU ARE RIGHT. We won't lose Jaire. The rest are as good as gone. But hey, one out of 6 ain't bad....if you are panning for gold.

[bobblehead]

Since Love was a first-round pick, don't they have him under a fairly cheap contract for two more years after this one, then an optional fifth? You'd think if the team signs Rodgers to a longer-term deal, they at least have a backup for the next two years. Give them time to decide if he can be developed or if he's a flub. I did not see the end of the game - heard he underthrew St. Brown once, overthrew him another time, hit him for a chunk gain? I don't know if that's nerves or real-game experience or if he just doesn't have the accuracy. I think it's still too early to judge overall, but you can safely say he needs to sit for another year before you want to find out. From what I saw of him, he throws an ugly ball and looks really indecisive. Again, though, it's early.

I will say Amari Rodgers looks awful. He was a third round pick, 85th overall, and Amon-Ra St. Brown was a fourth-round pick, 112th overall. Easy to see who is the better player, at least at this point. And sure, their roles are a bit different, but which dude do you wish Gutekunst had chosen?

Kenny Gainwell, and I said so at the time. Dude is a RB that runs routes better than Amari. He went in the 4th as well. He could have done everything we asked Amari to do and done it better. But yea, another St. Brown would have been cool too. I watched his combine and loved it.

As to Love, one thing I will say, he went to the right places with the ball, just looked rattled as hell. Maybe it slows down for him, maybe not. But Rodgers is playing MVP ball and locking him up for 4 more is a no brainer regardless.

[bobblehead]

It doesn't seem to be just a matter of learning and experience for Love. His problem(s) seen to be arm strength, accuracy, and mobility. And those things are not likely to improve greatly over the years.

I ask yet again....do you actually watch football?

Joes assessment above yours is spot on. The game is too fast for Love right now (as it was for Rodgers at first). Burrow is the quickest mind I have seen since Peyton Manning. It might come together for Love or it might not. If I were betting, I would predict he has a decent career. Not stellar. Think Ryan Tannehill.

[Upnorth]

Re love, after the game i was done with optimism, but then i remembered rodgers looked like crap year 1, was up and down year 2 and was ready year 3 but behind Favre till cowboys game.
He has shown decent arm strenght and decent mobility but poor pocket awareness and poor processing speed. Saying trade him now is stupid, we need to see what he does in preseason, and if we trade him before June 1st we only save like 70k.
Wait till training camp, if he sucks and we can trade him we save a little over 2 million then. If he is solid in camp.3.5 mill on a good backup is weirdly reasonable now.

I loved pur oline this game when bakh was in. Meyers was mostly solid. Great to.see.
Jones and dillion in January in GB... Amazing combination. One is bashing tool the other finess, both have great hands and dillion is getting better at blocking (not jones level yet though).

[King Friday]

Still too early to judge on Love, although I never got the feeling he was a cerebral guy. I disagree with those who say he doesn't have arm strength or mobility. He's a very capable athlete and has what is necessary to play the position. It's all about whether he puts it together between his ears at this point.

I completely disagree on the value of keeping him at this point if we sign Rodgers long term. At that point, I would rather have a reliable veteran who can fill in for a game or two instead of the noob. Who cares if we put 2 years into him? He won't stick around here after his rookie deal if Rodgers is here...so no point in keeping Love if Rodgers stays. Bring Wentz in as a backup.

[texaspackerbacker]

I ask yet again....do you actually watch football?

Joes assessment above yours is spot on. The game is too fast for Love right now (as it was for Rodgers at first). Burrow is the quickest mind I have seen since Peyton Manning. It might come together for Love or it might not. If I were betting, I would predict he has a decent career. Not stellar. Think Ryan Tannehill.

So you're saying Love has shown a good arm - strength-wise and/or accuracy-wise, and you're saying he has shown mobility of say a 37 year old Rodgers? WTF games are you watching?

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up close to Tannehill level - which is to say pretty mediocre. I, for one, don't want that in Green Bay.

[run pMc]

Too early to say for sure with Love, at worst he'll likely develop into a backup you could get thru a game with. He's still pretty green, and I think he's overthinking a little. I continue to not be impressed with his accuracy, but Rodgers is so good it makes it hard to compare.

I don't think he was the reason GB lost to DET; that was on the defense, and MLF playing a lot of backups. He led them to 3 scoring drives; his first pick was on Amari but the 2nd pick was on him.
If some team wanted to make a deal for him, I'd consider it; but no reason to give him away for nothing when you're going to need a good backup as Rodgers ages.
I don't think he's had a "wow" moment yet (which is concerning), nor do I think there's enough info for fans to say if Love is a bust.

[RashanGary]

Too early to say for sure with Love, at worst he'll likely develop into a backup you could get thru a game with. He's still pretty green, and I think he's overthinking a little. I continue to not be impressed with his accuracy, but Rodgers is so good it makes it hard to compare.

I don't think he was the reason GB lost to DET; that was on the defense, and MLF playing a lot of backups. He led them to 3 scoring drives; his first pick was on Amari but the 2nd pick was on him.
If some team wanted to make a deal for him, I'd consider it; but no reason to give him away for nothing when you're going to need a good backup as Rodgers ages.
I don't think he's had a "wow" moment yet (which is concerning), nor do I think there's enough info for fans to say if Love is a bust.

Yep.