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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Dillon/Jones, Adams and a sprinkle of everyone else.
    I am not sure have an identity, and that is a problem. I dont think they run the ball enough to say they are a running them, and I dont think they are consistent enough to say they are a passing team. I just dont see what they "go to" is.

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    • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Get the ball to Adams.
      And when a team triple teams him? Then what?

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      • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
        And when a team triple teams him? Then what?
        Still score 30 like they did against the Ravens when they tripled him.
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        • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
          I am not sure have an identity, and that is a problem. I dont think they run the ball enough to say they are a running them, and I dont think they are consistent enough to say they are a passing team. I just dont see what they "go to" is.
          I think the identity is to get the ball to Adams and force the opposition to react to that. If 49ers want to double Adams all day the way Baltimore did, then you may have to look elsewhere. MVS and the Packer TE's had big days when Baltimore did that. Packers may not have MVS, but Cobb being back is another option.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • Dillon and Jones are a part of the identity. Adams is the go to passing option, but we run the ball really well too.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • Not turning the ball over is part of the identity too.
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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Dillon and Jones are a part of the identity. Adams is the go to passing option, but we run the ball really well too.
                I agree that Dillon and Jones are part of that identity. I personally think they should have them both in the backfield at the same time, have 2 receivers and 1 TE (which with Lazard - it is actually like 2 TE). That would keep SFs defense guessing because they Packers could run or pass out of that set. They could run power in the middle (which I think they do really well - guards trapping etc.) - or run wide zone. They could set up screens to either Jones or Dillion. They could also set up some play action from that. Of course all of this depends on 1 person - Rodgers. He needs to buy into it and not want to play hero ball. I will be honest, I am not sure he is willing to do it. Long drives - wear SF defense out - dont let SF get the ball. Rodgers is a HOF QB - but he needs to decide if he want another ring, or wants to "be the hero" - in which case, the Packers will be one and done.

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                • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
                  I am not sure have an identity, and that is a problem. I dont think they run the ball enough to say they are a running them, and I dont think they are consistent enough to say they are a passing team. I just dont see what they "go to" is.
                  And that is the beauty of it.

                  Put yourself in the 49ers D coordinator spot...what do we look out for, how do we scheme ... ???.

                  Who knows what the shadow knows???

                  BTW, where's Gramps, down here in Bears territory?

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                  • The identity and key to the offense is to use Aaron Jones as their Deebo Samual.

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                    • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
                      I agree that Dillon and Jones are part of that identity. I personally think they should have them both in the backfield at the same time, have 2 receivers and 1 TE (which with Lazard - it is actually like 2 TE). That would keep SFs defense guessing because they Packers could run or pass out of that set. They could run power in the middle (which I think they do really well - guards trapping etc.) - or run wide zone. They could set up screens to either Jones or Dillion. They could also set up some play action from that. Of course all of this depends on 1 person - Rodgers. He needs to buy into it and not want to play hero ball. I will be honest, I am not sure he is willing to do it. Long drives - wear SF defense out - dont let SF get the ball. Rodgers is a HOF QB - but he needs to decide if he want another ring, or wants to "be the hero" - in which case, the Packers will be one and done.
                      Break that lineup out on a short yardage situation and then go no huddle.
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                      • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
                        I agree that Dillon and Jones are part of that identity. I personally think they should have them both in the backfield at the same time, have 2 receivers and 1 TE (which with Lazard - it is actually like 2 TE). That would keep SFs defense guessing because they Packers could run or pass out of that set. They could run power in the middle (which I think they do really well - guards trapping etc.) - or run wide zone. They could set up screens to either Jones or Dillion. They could also set up some play action from that. Of course all of this depends on 1 person - Rodgers. He needs to buy into it and not want to play hero ball. I will be honest, I am not sure he is willing to do it. Long drives - wear SF defense out - dont let SF get the ball. Rodgers is a HOF QB - but he needs to decide if he want another ring, or wants to "be the hero" - in which case, the Packers will be one and done.
                        I think he wants more jewelry. I've watched almost every game the man has played (only missed 3 or 4 per season), and my strong impression is that he's playing differently this year than I have ever seen him play. There have been so many times this season (especially the last half) when I would have expected the old Rodgers to drop back and gun it, but he handed it off. There've been a lot of plays inside the 10 where it seemed like the old Rodgers would have audibled out of the run and thrown a short pass for a TD (I mean, plays where the defense was just begging him to throw the damned thing), and he didn't do it. I think he could have easily had 45 TDs this year, but it seems like he's a lot more disciplined about sticking with the game that MLF is calling.

                        Like I said, it's an impression, just a gut feeling... but he's also said a number of times that he's really enjoying the game a lot more this year, and I think he's all in on trying to do whatever helps the team win. I think we're seeing a diffefrent Rodgers this year, and I just hope we see a lot more of him over the next month.

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                        • Our identity? Balanced play calling that mostly uses Zone blocking with rb talented at receiving as well to throw of their d. Out wide we have an ankle breaker who wins always then a leaky kitchen sink that win by play design.
                          Our rb threat is so very important to this team for play design, but ultimately (like most great teams) our qb is the difference maker.
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                            The identity and key to the offense is to use Aaron Jones as their Deebo Samual.
                            But that is NOT the Packers identity - the Packers have not really done that. This is what you/others hope the game plan for Saturday is, but is is not their identity.

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                            • I do wish The Packers were a much more heavy run team. We've ran the ball a lot more since the McCarthy days but it's still not enough. Probably because Aaron is our QB but still....

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                              • Originally posted by kcpackman View Post
                                But that is NOT the Packers identity - the Packers have not really done that. This is what you/others hope the game plan for Saturday is, but is is not their identity.
                                Good point, yeah. I misread the question, thought it was asking what they need to do to win in the playoffs. My hunch is most teams are going to be unable to double Adams, cover the deep pass with MVS, and keep a defensive back covering Jones if they have Dillon in the backfield concurrently. So more than likely Jones is going to have a linebacker on him and as good as Fred Warner is I don't think he can keep up with Jonesy on a crossing route.

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