Official Packers Offseason/Free Agency Thread

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Year 4 cap hit 38 Million
Year 5 cap hit 48 Million

the rest of the years aren't much better

year 1 - 15 million dollar cap hit
year 2 - 21 million
year 3 - 28 million
year 4 - 38
year 5 - 48

[Joemailman]

i have found a way to keep rodgers and adams on a tag

and the rest of the team by releasing preston, cobb, lowry, crosby and lewis

giving new contracts to z smith, alexander, amos, and turner. going by cap numbers based on their previous contracts

restructuring by converting salary plus roster bonuses into signing bonuses for bakh and clark

doing all that frees up about 63 million. getting us under the cap and being able to tag adams. now if we gave adams an actual new contract we would be able to get his number lower

also getting rid of zdarious and giving preston a new deal instead might save us more cap space

That would actually make more sense since I think Packers would be reluctant to extend Z due to his back issues.

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i think we need to be real clear also. hopkins is not making 27 million per year. he signed a 2 year extension that added 54 million to the already existing 3 years. that 54 million was spread over 5 years on top of the existing contract

his average cap number of those 5 years is 18.9 million a season. nowhere close to the 27 million a year the simple brained meatheads on TV and radio are reporting it as

micheal thomas signed a 5 year extension in 2019 for 96.25. that money added to what he was already making in 2019 made it in reality a 6 year 98 million dollar deal. counting on average16.3 million a year against the cap

[RashanGary]

i think we need to be real clear also. hopkins is not making 27 million per year. he signed a 2 year extension that added 54 million to the already existing 3 years. that 54 million was spread over 5 years on top of the existing contract

his average cap number of those 5 years is 18.9 million a season. nowhere close to the 27 million a year the simple brained meatheads on TV and radio are reporting it as

micheal thomas signed a 5 year extension in 2019 for 96.25. that money added to what he was already making in 2019 made it in reality a 6 year 98 million dollar deal. counting on average16.3 million a year against the cap

Yep. That was a 2 year extension because he had a bad contract. It’s not 27M/season.

[run pMc]

the rest of the years aren't much better

year 1 - 15 million dollar cap hit
year 2 - 21 million
year 3 - 28 million
year 4 - 38
year 5 - 48

and he'd be 34 going on 35 when that deal ends. Still, if the goal is to keep Rodgers and Adams, it might happen. Will hurt their cap (48 million for a 34 yo WR is bonkers), but could happen.

[texaspackerbacker]

Year 4 cap hit 38 Million
Year 5 cap hit 48 Million

Either he is gone before year 4 and 5 or else he gets restructured beyond that if he is still effective after three years.

My point was to hire Cobb to Getsey's position wherever Getsey may end up. If the report above was accurate, Rodgers said he wanted to play with Adams and MVS - not mentioning Cobb. Keeping him in Green Bay as a coach seems like a good idea.

[call_me_ishmael]

That’s the thing Tex. When you’re paying someone big ass signing bonuses to defer money and get under the cap, you *cant* just move on. They’re stuck on the books.

[Joemailman]

I just don't think you can justify paying a WR 30 million per year. Too many teams have proven you can win without an all-pro WR. Including the Packers the last 3 years when Adams has been out.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wanting 30M per year and getting it are too different things. I, too, want it. Maybe an ass team that is flush with cash would pay it. No good organization will IMO. We shall see.

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

The #Packers are promoting Adam Stenavich to offensive coordinator, sources tell me and @TomPelissero.

Stenavich replaces Nathaniel Hackett, who hoped to bring him along to Denver. The path is now clear for Luke Getsy to be the #Bears OC. That is expected to be official soon.

Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL

So to recap:

Hackett to Denver as Head Coach
Getsy to Chicago as OC
Steno stays in GB as OC
Outten potentially to Denver as OC

GB had an embarrassment of riches on their offensive staff the last few seasons.

So Stenavich becomes OC. Butkus probably gets OL coach position. They'll need to find a TE coach and a QB coach.

[texaspackerbacker]

That’s the thing Tex. When you’re paying someone big ass signing bonuses to defer money and get under the cap, you *cant* just move on. They’re stuck on the books.

Cutting him in 3 or 4 years would mean 24 or 12 million dead money - that's the chance you take or price you pay for kicking the can and the success in the short or medium term. Of course, if he's still good by then, you extend him and put off oblivion for a few more years. Myself, I'd rather it is 5 or more years from now than next year or the year after.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Cutting him in 3 or 4 years would mean 24 or 12 million dead money - that's the chance you take or price you pay for kicking the can and the success in the short or medium term. Of course, if he's still good by then, you extend him and put off oblivion for a few more years. Myself, I'd rather it is 5 or more years from now than next year or the year after.

Good luck with your hopes but it looks more and more like Rodgers is history. I just hope we get compensated appropriately. MVP should help, Brady retiring should help..

[Joemailman]

Good luck with your hopes but it looks more and more like Rodgers is history. I just hope we get compensated appropriately. MVP should help, Brady retiring should help..

Time will tell. It does seem though Rodgers is trying to see if there is a way for he Packers to keep him (and maybe Adams) without gutting the team.

When Aaron Rodgers' season ended after a Divisional Round loss to the 49ers, he didn't hop on a jet and fly to Los Angeles. Frustrated, and with his future hanging in the balance, the Packers quarterback stuck around in Green Bay.

Sources say Rodgers stayed in the building for a few extra days to plot out the team's future, huddling with coach Matt LaFleur and others and mapping out what's next. It left those in the organization with confidence moving forward that Rodgers will return for the 2022 season.

Cautious optimism was the phrase, per sources, though no one wants to interfere with Rodgers' process. And Packers decision makers all respect the steps he'll take to arrive at his eventual decision.

Rodgers has said publicly that all options are on the table moving forward, from returning to retiring to working with the team on a possible trade that's suitable for all parties. He also has said he doesn't want to be in a rebuilding situation.

[King Friday]

I'm with you Joe. There is a way to keep the band mostly together for another 2-3 years, and Rodgers knows it. He also knows he would have to work his ass off if he left Green Bay and went anywhere else without any guarantee it would be any better. The Packers aren't going to let him move to another NFC team, and the AFC is becoming loaded at this point.

All signs point to Rodgers putting in a lot of effort to stay in Green Bay and make the final push to getting that second title that he needs to secure his legacy on the Mount Rushmore of QBs. There are a lot of moving pieces and it might not work out in the end, but I think the chances are greater that he stays at this point.

[Fritz]

I'm with you Joe. There is a way to keep the band mostly together for another 2-3 years, and Rodgers knows it. He also knows he would have to work his ass off if he left Green Bay and went anywhere else without any guarantee it would be any better. The Packers aren't going to let him move to another NFC team, and the AFC is becoming loaded at this point.

All signs point to Rodgers putting in a lot of effort to stay in Green Bay and make the final push to getting that second title that he needs to secure his legacy on the Mount Rushmore of QBs. There are a lot of moving pieces and it might not work out in the end, but I think the chances are greater that he stays at this point.

I picture Rodgers sitting down with Russ Ball, a sharp pencil in hand, working out that salary cap.