What happens if Rodgers wants to stay but management wants to move on??

[HarveyWallbangers]

29 (Rasul) wasn’t All- Pro or Pro Bowler.

[run pMc]

29 (Rasul) wasn’t All- Pro or Pro Bowler.

He's listed as a Pro-Bowl alternate, and was a big lift to the secondary. They lose to ARI for sure without him, and probably the LAR game too. He has limitations but he's better than Kevin King who got a mind boggling $5M contract.

[run pMc]

I'd prefer they keep Rodgers, but not extend him too far out. Would help the cap and possibly prevent a rebuild while keeping an MVP QB on the team.

I wouldn't trade him unless he was really dug in, and then it would have to be to an AFC team like DEN who has picks and players to send back. He can't retire and then unretire a year later, as his rights would stay with GB, correct?
I think this team wins 5 or 6 games with Jordan Love as the starting QB.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I'd prefer they keep Rodgers, but not extend him too far out. Would help the cap and possibly prevent a rebuild while keeping an MVP QB on the team.

I wouldn't trade him unless he was really dug in, and then it would have to be to an AFC team like DEN who has picks and players to send back. He can't retire and then unretire a year later, as his rights would stay with GB, correct?
I think this team wins 5 or 6 games with Jordan Love as the starting QB.

Denver seems the hottest to get Rodgers, Peter King floated a trade where Denver traded Jeudy, 2 1st round, and a fourth round for Rodgers. I mean, 3 1st rounds in 2022 seems like a hell of a way to start the next super bowl run...

[Sparkey]

Get home field advantage with Rodgers and it's 50/50 they win any game.

The only year Rodgers won a SB they were a wildcard and played on the road for every game.

Rodgers record at home, in the playoffs is average.

So yeah, keep him, weaken the defense and then everyone can complain next year when the same shit happens.

Rodgers looked like he was running in sand and his passes were piss poor in accuracy. He's not getting better.

[Bossman641]

I wonder what Lafleur's true feelings on Rodgers are. I don't doubt he realizes how much easier Rodgers makes it for him, but we've been running this quasi Rodgers/LaFleur offense and I can't help but feel LaFleur wants to implement the whole thing. The offense has these funk games where everything feels so difficult, the pre-snap feels so static, and we see very little in the way of schemed open throws to the middle of the field. Is that Rodgers? Does LaFleur install plays Rodgers is more comfortable with, from the old offense?

I'm in such a funk. You watch the Bills or Chiefs and they attack the middle of them field so much. Even Jimmy, for as shitty as he played, had some easy throws down the middle.

[call_me_ishmael]

Denver seems the hottest to get Rodgers, Peter King floated a trade where Denver traded Jeudy, 2 1st round, and a fourth round for Rodgers. I mean, 3 1st rounds in 2022 seems like a hell of a way to start the next super bowl run...

Not so sure I agree in this garbage draft.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wonder what Lafleur's true feelings on Rodgers are. I don't doubt he realizes how much easier Rodgers makes it for him, but we've been running this quasi Rodgers/LaFleur offense and I can't help but feel LaFleur wants to implement the whole thing. The offense has these funk games where everything feels so difficult, the pre-snap feels so static, and we see very little in the way of schemed open throws to the middle of the field. Is that Rodgers? Does LaFleur install plays Rodgers is more comfortable with, from the old offense?

I'm in such a funk. You watch the Bills or Chiefs and they attack the middle of them field so much. Even Jimmy, for as shitty as he played, had some easy throws down the middle.

It is shocking how difference there offenses look. Of course, they have much better players at skill positions and certainly at least KC prioritizes speed over everything. I would be curious to know how much the Packers use motion, etc. It seems to me that they play a modern offense most of the time. It did feel like there wasn't enough motion and crossing on Saturday, though.

Something that jumped out was how the Niners literally run their players wild in the backfield before the snap to get the head of steam. They seem schematically ahead of everyone else.

[Bossman641]

It is shocking how difference there offenses look. Of course, they have much better players at skill positions and certainly at least KC prioritizes speed over everything. I would be curious to know how much the Packers use motion, etc. It seems to me that they play a modern offense most of the time. It did feel like there wasn't enough motion and crossing on Saturday, though.

Something that jumped out was how the Niners literally run their players wild in the backfield before the snap to get the head of steam. They seem schematically ahead of everyone else.

The lack of a TE threat is killing us, but I can't figure out what our offense is. Early on in LaFleur tenure it felt like we lined up in a lot more varied formations and used condensed sets more often. This year has felt more like the MM years with 3 and 4 wr sets. Is that MLF adjusting to the personnel strengths?

[Joemailman]

The lack of a TE threat is killing us, but I can't figure out what our offense is. Early on in LaFleur tenure it felt like we lined up in a lot more varied formations and used condensed sets more often. This year has felt more like the MM years with 3 and 4 wr sets. Is that MLF adjusting to the personnel strengths?

There is no doubt LaFleur has taken a lot of the motion/sweep stuff out of the offense to accomodate Rodgers changing things pre-snap. That's why people shouldn't judge Love too harshly based on what they've seen so far. When Rodgers is replaced by Love, the motion stuff will be back. You'll likely see Love running RPO's. Love was drafted to run MLF's version of the Shanahan offense, not this hybrid offense they've been running with Rodgers.

[th87]

Rodgers feels so comfortable in year 3 of the offense. Yeah he sure showed it when it mattered.

[King Friday]

There is no doubt LaFleur has taken a lot of the motion/sweep stuff out of the offense to accomodate Rodgers changing things pre-snap. That's why people shouldn't judge Love too harshly based on what they've seen so far. When Rodgers is replaced by Love, the motion stuff will be back. You'll likely see Love running RPO's. Love was drafted to run MLF's version of the Shanahan offense, not this hybrid offense they've been running with Rodgers.

This is very spot on. Love was never drafted to do what Rodgers does. The system run by Green Bay will change significantly when Love takes over. A similar change is likely to happen in Pittsburgh, where I assume Tomlin will seek for a more mobile option at QB. Having a QB that can run and pass is the ultimate threat right now. Josh Allen will never be the QB that Aaron Rodgers is...but he could possibly wind up with more SB wins.

[MadScientist]

The cold hard facts are that the Packers could keep most, but not all, of the key players from this year. But that will leave them with almost no room to improve, save low draft picks, and rookies are a crap shoot and rarely game changers. So the odds of the Packers keeping things together and actually being better are very slim. I'm not sure there is a path to the Owl without blowing things up, because this team isn't good enough. If Rodgers sees it layed out like this he'll either retire or demand a trade.a

[Bossman641]

Rodgers has to know there's no way he can demand a high $ deal AND reload the team. He may be hardheaded but he's not ignorant of the realities of a salary cap.

[call_me_ishmael]

The cold hard facts are that the Packers could keep most, but not all, of the key players from this year. But that will leave them with almost no room to improve, save low draft picks, and rookies are a crap shoot and rarely game changers. So the odds of the Packers keeping things together and actually being better are very slim. I'm not sure there is a path to the Owl without blowing things up, because this team isn't good enough. If Rodgers sees it layed out like this he'll either retire or demand a trade.a

I think I think the opposite and believe it's possible they'd be better next year if they keep the band together. Their best players were hurt this year. What are the odds that key plays like Bak, Jenkins and Alexander are hurt next year? Slim IMO. Other than Rodgers they aren't an old team so I'm not sure I'd expect much age related regression.

Personally, I'd probably try to run it back for another year or two and go from there. Plus when the bill comes due they will _really_ suck which is great for a quick rebuild instead of half sucking.