What happens if Rodgers wants to stay but management wants to move on??

[jklowan]

can I coin aagon

[Joemailman]

can I coin aagon

What?

[jklowan]

Aagon Rogers tm

[Rastak]

Sigh, we were doing so good too.

You have definitely gone off the rails on this one. he did not say anything politcal. Rodgers has said everyone is out too get him so it kept it pretty clean, something you and all your playmates are not able to do it seems.

Now you attacking him after making a really good post what’s up with that? Also you seem to be trying to control what the situation is here that’s not what you’re trying to do correct? Because that would be my thing to do wouldn’t you agree? As far as HH goes he gets to do what he wants because I say so. Is me doing whatever not OK with you?

Good man Mad. Hope you are well, and I agree.

As to Rodgers, going to be interesting. I was somewhat surprised when Sean Payton bailed on the Saints but they kicked the can and are fucked. Just surprised he who along with Loomis caused the damn thing to just bail.

Put Tex in charge and you guys are fucked. He is right about the cap going up it goes up for EVERYBODY.

I have no answers and no idea how it will play out. Should be interesting to watch either way. Packers had one helluva year.

[call_me_ishmael]

I just don't see how you can keep this team together next year, period. Unless Gute drafts out of his mind and finds two more gems like Campbell and Douglas - and that is rare - the team won't be as talented as this year's team, in my opinion. And this year's team couldn't get past San Fran.

I don't know. We've been spoiled watching Rodgers in the regular season, but he's pooped the bed a couple of times in the playoffs now. So how do you get to the SB? I really don't know.

Well, the hope is instead of Jaire getting injured, it'd be CB4 or something. Same with instead of Z getting injured, it'd be OLB 4.

My read:

MVS was a bigger loss than one might think. His speed changes things and as such they didn't throw to receivers when he wasn't in.

They were missing two all-pro linemen, possible 2 of the best 5 linemen in the league.

They were missing their all-pro CB and replaced him with a decent player, but our CB is much better when both are healthy.

I agree they nailed MLB this year.

[call_me_ishmael]

you said his cap number for this year would be 14.5 or 22 million

his prorated potion for this year is already 19.1. THAT NUMBER CAN NOT GOT DOWN!!!!!!!

How do you figure? I don't believe that to be true. Why can't you tear that contract up and redo it.

Even if that is true, then pay him a 1M salary and he is at 20M for the year on the cap. By my model of him getting 37M per year, push 17M out.

you want to give him another 108 million dollar signing bonus. spread over 5 years, thats another 21.6 for pro rated signing bonus per year

You're double dipping here. He either gets his existing signing bonus money for this year, or he doesn't. If you're factoring in this year, then he gets a two year extension with 72M in new guaranteed money over five years, but that wouldn't kick in until next year anyway. They would do it as a roster bonus and convert to signing bonus next year.

YOU ADD THAT NUMBER to the pro rated signing bonus he already has, it doesn't replace it. it can't replace it cause the cap doesn't work that way

so under you idea his new cap number for 2022 is 40.7 million from pro rated signing bonus + whatever his salary is

so you haven't fix anything

his cap number next year would have a 29 million dollar pro rated signing bonus + salary

after that you would still have around 65 million in dead cap money

your numbers for bak and preston seem right. but with your numbers for rodgers being so far off, it makes the restructure of preston kinda complicated. saving 3.5 million in cap this year on preston means we still have to cut a lot of guys. p smith is one of the few guys we can cut and get a big cap break from

Maybe. I'm not sure.

[red]

its seems to me that you have no fucking clue what so ever how the salary cap works

[George Cumby]

Good man Mad. Hope you are well, and I agree.

As to Rodgers, going to be interesting. I was somewhat surprised when Sean Payton bailed on the Saints but they kicked the can and are fucked. Just surprised he who along with Loomis caused the damn thing to just bail.

Put Tex in charge and you guys are fucked. He is right about the cap going up it goes up for EVERYBODY.

I have no answers and no idea how it will play out. Should be interesting to watch either way. Packers had one helluva year.

Classy as always, Ras.

Glad to have you drop in.

[NewsBruin]

The 2022 league minimum for players with 7 or more accrued seasons is $1.12M. Rodgers' signing bonus (already paid to him in 2018) cost against the 2022 cap is $16.3M, plus $2.85M from the last restructure.

If ARod were to agree to the minimum salary with no bonus money for his troubles, he would count $20.25M against the cap. That doesn't include any guaranteed bonuses or other charges that I don't understand. That's Gutes going to ARod, asking him to give up everything he's signed for, to take the least that we could pay him, so that messageboard fans could sleep well at night. $20.25 million against the 2022 cap. For taking home half the gameday check that punter Cameron Johnson takes home.

For someone with his trust issues, I don't think he'd agree to a 2-year (at the least) deal that pays him peanuts now but allows him to get everything back in 2023, when we've already worked out a deal that lets him turn in his keys at the end of 2022.

[Upnorth]

If we extend him he would treat any signing bonus as this year's salary and it is spread over the remainging years of the contract (likely at least 3). From overthecap extending him in and giving him a 0 base salary this year gets us to a 22 million savings so only 26 mill against the cap. Now we only need to find 29 more million in savings and love is gone.

What next?

This strategy is better (in terms of cap savings) than trading pre June 1, and worse than trading (post June 1)..
Pre june 1 savings of 19.8 mill, post June 1 27.5 mil.
Man our cap is broken.

[texaspackerbacker]

Some of these idiots just don't stop hahahahaha.

[red]

Some of these idiots just don't stop hahahahaha.

now you know how all the rest of us feel every time you post

[George Cumby]

ROFLMAO

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Maybe some of the sportswriters are correct and we don't win the big games cause we are too concentrated in a couple positions, and NOT a great TEAM. I wish I was younger as I do have fond memories of watching a bad packers grow into a good TEAM. But whatever. It's time to trade rodgers for what we can get.

[Upnorth]

Maybe some of the sportswriters are correct and we don't win the big games cause we are too concentrated in a couple positions, and NOT a great TEAM. I wish I was younger as I do have fond memories of watching a bad packers grow into a good TEAM. But whatever. It's time to trade rodgers for what we can get.

So our concentration of quality is olb, cb, rb? Oline when they get healthy?