What happens if Rodgers wants to stay but management wants to move on??

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Where our strength is makes good conversation but the results say it is not good enough to win it all..

[Bossman641]

The JS has a really good breakdown of the situation with numbers thrown out by agents. Here's the gist of it. Sign Rodgers to a 5 year, 226 million deal that would essentially be 3 year 135 million. That takes his cap number from 46 to 36. They can restructure a few others and open enough to franchise Adams but leaves no money for Campbell, Douglas, Lazard, Tonyan, or MVS.

[Teamcheez1]

I can see the thinking behind the potential extension except that Rodgers isn’t worth $135M. If he wants to be here for three years he has to take less than that.

[call_me_ishmael]

The JS has a really good breakdown of the situation with numbers thrown out by agents. Here's the gist of it. Sign Rodgers to a 5 year, 226 million deal that would essentially be 3 year 135 million. That takes his cap number from 46 to 36. They can restructure a few others and open enough to franchise Adams but leaves no money for Campbell, Douglas, Lazard, Tonyan, or MVS.

Woof. Does that include cutting Z? If you are losing Rodgers two weapons that he trusts (and presumably Cobber), who is gonna throw to lol.

I guess I am sort of shifting my opinion towards it's time to blow the bitch up.

Not that Lazard, MVS or Tonyan are game changers but you gotta have _something_ there.

[Fritz]

The JS has a really good breakdown of the situation with numbers thrown out by agents. Here's the gist of it. Sign Rodgers to a 5 year, 226 million deal that would essentially be 3 year 135 million. That takes his cap number from 46 to 36. They can restructure a few others and open enough to franchise Adams but leaves no money for Campbell, Douglas, Lazard, Tonyan, or MVS.

With Tonyan coming off a serious injury and MVS playing The Invisible Man after he came back from injury, then getting injured again, any chance these two sign a one-year "prove it" deal?

[call_me_ishmael]

With Tonyan coming off a serious injury and MVS playing The Invisible Man after he came back from injury, then getting injured again, any chance these two sign a one-year "prove it" deal?

I don't think any of the three of them will get enough for it to be prohibitive. You could - in normal situations - easily push the money forward to keep them. BUT they might be exhausting all of their push-money-forward options to get the money where it is in the above example.

[Bossman641]

Woof. Does that include cutting Z? If you are losing Rodgers two weapons that he trusts (and presumably Cobber), who is gonna throw to lol.

I guess I am sort of shifting my opinion towards it's time to blow the bitch up.

Not that Lazard, MVS or Tonyan are game changers but you gotta have _something_ there.

No, the article didn't include the math but this includes converting salaries to signing bonuses for both Smiths, bakhtiari, Clark, Amos, Turner, Jones, and Lowry. It includes cutting Cobb, Crosby and Lewis.

They could create additional funds by outright releasing Z and Preston instead but I'm not sure exactly how much.

[call_me_ishmael]

No, the article didn't include the math but this includes converting salaries to signing bonuses for both Smiths, bakhtiari, Clark, Amos, Turner, Jones, and Lowry. It includes cutting Cobb, Crosby and Lewis.

They could create additional funds by outright releasing Z and Preston instead but I'm not sure exactly how much.

Can you paste the article? You subscribe to JSO? Good on you. Aren't you in Illinois IIRC?

[Bossman641]

Can you paste the article? You subscribe to JSO? Good on you. Aren't you in Illinois IIRC?

From IL, then was in Austin TX for about 7 years, in Charlotte NC now.

The article is in the Trash......

[bobblehead]

Sigh, we were doing so good too.

You have definitely gone off the rails on this one. he did not say anything politcal. Rodgers has said everyone is out too get him so it kept it pretty clean, something you and all your playmates are not able to do it seems.

Now you attacking him after making a really good post what’s up with that? Also you seem to be trying to control what the situation is here that’s not what you’re trying to do correct? Because that would be my thing to do wouldn’t you agree? As far as HH goes he gets to do what he wants because I say so. Is me doing whatever not OK with you?

Ya know what, I'll just leave it at that. I've always said its absolutely your site and you can do whatever you want. Perks of being the guy who pays the bills and put in the work. My original reply to this was that if you think his post (or at least that part of it) wasn't political, then I should have free reign to respond to why Rodgers is simply stating facts.

A couple weeks ago I bitched because the NFL was sidelining guys for a virus that to date had killed exactly one person. That was a fact and you lit me up. My bitch was that the packers hadn't had an outbreak, but we probably would in the playoffs. To be honest, I meant nothing political by it, just was frustrated that I thought it would fuck us in the playoffs. I get why you didn't want me posting it because someone would be triggered into refuting the deadliness of the newest strain. But if you think saying that Rodgers is crazy and he is spouting conspiracy theories isn't "political" or at a minimum something you don't want me responding to your as crazy as....well, Rodgers I guess.

Hell, its the offseason. I guess I can be done with it all for a few months.

[Joemailman]

With Tonyan coming off a serious injury and MVS playing The Invisible Man after he came back from injury, then getting injured again, any chance these two sign a one-year "prove it" deal?

Tonyan might have to because he won't be recovered when FA starts. A cheap 1 year deal with lots of achievable incentives might be the way to go.

With MVS, hard to know because we don't know how serious the back injury is. If it requires surgery, he could be in the same boat as Tonyan.

[Sparkey]

If MVS had a back injury, might as well let him walk. Honestly, the best ability any player can have is Availability.

MVS is also to that point where he is what he is. He has teased enough without ever taking that step forward we all wait for.

[NewsBruin]

I don't want to sound cold about this, but every year, I've waited for the complementary WRs to have their breakout season, and every final cutdown day, I'm surprised they're all still on the roster

I feel like WR is a position that's just been flush in all rounds of the past five years' drafts and most draftees should just turn out okay with pro-quality coaching.

[Bretsky]

Every year we pimp somebody lacking the skill to breakout .........this is his year...etc etc etc

Need Talent there

[run pMc]

Every year we pimp somebody lacking the skill to breakout .........this is his year...etc etc etc

Need Talent there

Lazard passed him on the depth chart. MVS fills a role as deep threat and blocks his ass off, but his hands have never been great and he missed 6 regular season games this year and was hurt in others this/last year.
I wonder if there's a burner they could find in the draft with better hands to do the same things he does. (younger, healthier, cheaper, better?)