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  • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    FOR THOSE who boarded the LOVE BOAT .............are you getting in line to Walk the Plank, or are you hanging on with odds you'll go down with the ship ?
    Personally, I haven't boarded the LOVE BOAT. I would guess that it is 25/75 that he will be successful in the NFL.

    What I have done is come to the conclusion that ARod isn't the way forward to win a Super Bowl. We will be stuck at 13-4 because we play in the NFC North and lose every year in the playoffs when we play the better teams in our conference.

    What we have right now is the ability to trade ARod for a huge amount of draft capital that the franchise can build an extremely solid core of players to win multiple Super Bowls 3-8 years down the line.

    2022 will be bad in stretches but we still might make the playoffs playing in the NFC North at 10-7.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
      Personally, I haven't boarded the LOVE BOAT. I would guess that it is 25/75 that he will be successful in the NFL.

      What I have done is come to the conclusion that ARod isn't the way forward to win a Super Bowl. We will be stuck at 13-4 because we play in the NFC North and lose every year in the playoffs when we play the better teams in our conference.

      What we have right now is the ability to trade ARod for a huge amount of draft capital that the franchise can build an extremely solid core of players to win multiple Super Bowls 3-8 years down the line.

      2022 will be bad in stretches but we still might make the playoffs playing in the NFC North at 10-7.
      This is kinda where I'm at. If he still wants to play at all that is.
      C.H.U.D.

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      • Love may not end up being "the guy" but give him a shot and keep drafting QBs. Build an insane defense.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
          Love may not end up being "the guy" but give him a shot and keep drafting QBs. Build an insane defense.
          Many of the trade speculators are saying picks plus a replacement QB. We may be able to give Love more time although I am not convinced he is the answer..

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          • The Packers see Love every day. They wouldn
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • Rodgers denies the claim he wants to be paid north of $50M, yet everything I’m reading says the short term deal the Packers are working on would make him the highest paid player in the NFL. The front office is making a big mistake if that’s the case.

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              • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                Rodgers denies the claim he wants to be paid north of $50M, yet everything I’m reading says the short term deal the Packers are working on would make him the highest paid player in the NFL. The front office is making a big mistake if that’s the case.
                Highest paid player doesn't necessarily mean 50+ million. Mahomes has the biggest contract at average per year at 45 Million. His cap hit this year is 36 million. There are different ways to define highest paid player.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  Highest paid player doesn't necessarily mean 50+ million. Mahomes has the biggest contract at average per year at 45 Million. His cap hit this year is 36 million. There are different ways to define highest paid player.
                  The longer this goes on and the more I read - Gutes talking about how much work, how hard it is, for Rodgers to prepare for the next season, and implying that's what Rodgers is doing - the more I think Rodgers is coming back. They'll do a longer-term deal that will in reality mean another two years. I think Rodgers is closer to retirement than he thought he'd be when he was complaining last year. And I don't think he's the kind of guy who wants to just start over. I think he'll be back. And I think it's going to cost the Packers down the road.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    The longer this goes on and the more I read - Gutes talking about how much work, how hard it is, for Rodgers to prepare for the next season, and implying that's what Rodgers is doing - the more I think Rodgers is coming back. They'll do a longer-term deal that will in reality mean another two years. I think Rodgers is closer to retirement than he thought he'd be when he was complaining last year. And I don't think he's the kind of guy who wants to just start over. I think he'll be back. And I think it's going to cost the Packers down the road.
                    This is generally where I'm at as well. I agree he seems closer to retirement than he thought.

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                    • Ken Ingalls with what a 2 year extension, to run through 2024 might look like. It would lower Rodgers cap hit in 2022 by 14M. There would be dead money of 12M in both 2025 and 2026. The dead money would be about 4% of the salary cap in those years. There would actually less dead money than if they traded Rodgers this year at his current contract which would be 27M.

                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • I guess I would wonder why if they're gonna do two years at 12M, why not stretch it to all four and take less per year and have more cap space this year? I also don't think Rodgers is taking 50M per year now after the backlash. 45M per year though or whatever a few bucks more than the highest is. Seems stupid given that is real dollars paid today where as Mahomes and Allen are more fictional money at this stage.

                        I, too, would add one some big base salary (not guaranteed) in those void years to make it the highest average per year fully knowing he ain't getting it.

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                        • It all works but 2023 is nuts again

                          24 clark + 23 Jones + Rodgers 48.5 + 30 Bak that's 126 approx half the expected cap for 4 players yikes, it is gonna be ugly after another 1st round playoff exit in 22.
                          Last edited by jklowan; 03-02-2022, 01:50 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                            It all works but 2023 is nuts again

                            24 clark + 23 Jones + Rodgers 48.5 + 30 Bak that's 126 approx half the expected cap for 4 players yikes, it is gonna be ugly after another 1st round playoff exit in 22.
                            But the cap doesnt matter. It's just an konstruct of the bigoted proletariat to force the poor kapitalists to given more of their profit to the undeserving owned players
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • Rodgers isn't going to be 48.5 though. That's crazy. They will for sure spread that cap hit over many years. He has a 26M roster bonus on there that will get converted to a signing bonus obviously. What does Rodgers care how it's structured as long as it's guaranteed? They will probably be on the hook for about 30-40M over 4 years after he leaves. No big thang, they'll issue a stock sale. The special addition Rodgers commemorative stock. No doubt about it IMO. And you know what? People will buy it.

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                              • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                Rodgers isn't going to be 48.5 though. That's crazy. They will for sure spread that cap hit over many years. He has a 26M roster bonus on there that will get converted to a signing bonus obviously. What does Rodgers care how it's structured as long as it's guaranteed? They will probably be on the hook for about 30-40M over 4 years after he leaves. No big thang, they'll issue a stock sale. The special addition Rodgers commemorative stock. No doubt about it IMO. And you know what? People will buy it.
                                Cash flow is not a problem for the pack. Cap space is though.
                                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                                George Orwell

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