NEXT YEAR AARON RODGERS WILL BE

[Upnorth]

CMI I don't know exactly how it worked but you're on the right track regarding the Saints and Brees. You rework the contract and don't file for retirement until after June 1. I believe that would spread the dead cap hit over two years rather then 1.

That is what the Saints did. Only works if the player wants to retire.

What if love is great? What if we draft a successor who is great prior to him wanting to retire?
I hope we have this issue. Bad for cap though.

[beveaux1]

I'm going to try to make sense of the Rodgers contract. He signed a 5 year extension with a fully guaranteed 40.8 million dollar signing bonus. Each year of the contract he has a $50,000 workout bonus. The final 2 years are voidable by either side and are basically placeholder years.
This year he has 1.15 million in base salary, the 0.05 million workout bonus and the guaranteed 40.8 million signing bonus.
Next year 2023 he has a 57.465 million base salary and a 0.05 million workout bonus.
In 2024, he has a 49.25 million base salary and the 0.05 million workout bonus. The 49.25 million is fully guaranteed against any injury that he suffers in 2023 in which he can't play in 2024.
The final 2 years are placeholders and are used to extend the cap charges.

His cap charge in 2022 is 19.17 million holdover from his last contract plus 40.8 divided by 5 years or 8.16 million plus 1.15 million salary plus .05 million workout bonus. That equals 28.53 million.
His cap charge in 2023 is 8.16 million plus 57.465 million salary plus 0.05 million workout. That equals 65.675 million.
His cap charge in 2024 is 8.16 million plus 49.25 million salary plus .05 million workout or 57.46 million, but since the last two years are voidable, the cap charge is 57.46 plus 8.16 million plus 8.16 million. That equals 73.78 million.

Obviously, the Packers will convert salary next year into a signing bonus decreasing the cap charge in 2023, but raising it for 2024.

If the Packers could trade him or release him after this year or next year, the base salary would be null and the Packers would have a one year cap hit of the remainder of the signing bonus as dead money. In 2023 that figure would be 32.64 million.
In 2024 it would be whatever salary was converted to bonus plus 24.48 million of the signing bonus.

In essence, it could very well be a one or two year contract.

[Upnorth]

New answer. He is gonna be pissed if adams is traded

[Jereamiah]

Hard to tell what he is doing. Maybe he was just buzzed up, drunk-tweeting. It happens. Been reading alot of interesting posts and replies in here. Seeing some realists who accept the fact that the team will look drastically different come June and I am seeing some completely deluded homers who swear up and down that the cap does not matter, and that Rodgers and Adams and basically the whole team will be back, and that next year, next year is THE YEAR. I suspect that the reality of your teams pending offseason moves will be somewhere in between those two scenerios. They WILL tag Adams, if only to buy time to keep negotiating with him. They can't come to an agreement? He gets traded. Bottom line, there is no way, none, that the Packers retain both Rodgers and Adams. There just isn't. It's one or the other, not both, and probably, both are gone. Doesn't matter which one of those two are gone, the result will be a very different team. In my opinion, Rodgers is traded, Adams is tagged, and is traded after the Packers simply refuse to pay him what he is asking to be paid.

Well, called it. Did I not? On Adams, anyway. But also on the fact that the Pack could not keep both

[Joemailman]

Well, called it. Did I not? On Adams, anyway. But also on the fact that the Pack could not keep both

The reports are that the Packers matched the money Raiders were offering. He just wanted to leave. The Packers were prepared to keep both.

[Jereamiah]

The reports are that the Packers matched the money Raiders were offering. He just wanted to leave. The Packers were prepared to keep both.

So? Regardless, I called it. But whatever, didn’t take a genius to see that coming

[George Cumby]

The reports are that the Packers matched the money Raiders were offering. He just wanted to leave. The Packers were prepared to keep both.

Vegas vs. Brown County.

Where's he live during the off-season?

[Fritz]

So, "Next year, Aaron Rodgers will be . . . "

Throwing the ball to Davante Adams in Las Vegas?

[Joemailman]

I'm hoping to hear a lot of talk about how Rodgers will struggle without Adams. Cannot imagine anything that would motivate Rodgers mpre than that.

[bobblehead]

people really need to quit shiity on rodgers for taking a fake insane amout of money

florio was reporting that his number was like 67 million per year

looking at the cap sites now, the guy gave us a huge deal

his cap numbers for the next 3 years are 28.5, 31.6 and 40.7. those are all low cap numbers for the 2 time defending MVP

the cap numbers then go way up on the last 2 years (still nowhere near the 67 million that dickhead was saying), but these include massive roster and option bonuses. the team can walk away after the 2024 season and only have a 16 million dollar cap penalty

hell the team can walk away after the 2023 season and save a ton of cap

it looks to be a very team friendly deal IMO

If that is accurate, I have to say you were right in the other thread. This would be a TEAM friendly deal. Yes, I said it. Red is right and I am wrong (assuming this is accurate).

[bobblehead]

Who knows if it's correct, but here is how JS claims the dead cap hits work out. If he leaves after the 2023 season, 68 million on the 2024 cap. If he leaves after 3 years, 76.8 million on the 2025 cap.

That is what I read initially as well. So I guess as usual, I don't trust the media. I am hoping Red is correct though.

[bobblehead]

He doesn't have a signing bonus (yet) but I think they would convert those bonuses into a signing bonus and have a fake extension or something to spread the cap hit out. Does anyone know how this worked with Brees? I know it was a thing but I don't know the details.

I could very well be wrong about this. I have never seen a contract like Rodgers so I do not really understand it and am probably wrong in what I'm talking about. I do know he doesn't have a signing bonus so the bonuses that he has are probably eligible to be converted to one which maybe could help? I'm unclear on that. Regardless, I am assuming they will find a way to spread the mega cap hit out for at least two years.

Well....if there are no bonuses hit yet, and we just traded Adams.....Just saying, I haven't seen anyone quote the dead cap hit if we trade him before the June 1st deadline.

[bobblehead]

Well, called it. Did I not? On Adams, anyway. But also on the fact that the Pack could not keep both

I'm sorry, but we prefer to point out others failures here on packerrats. Like Fritz and his Rashan Gary predictions (in fairness, most every rat not named Harrel hated that pick).

[red]

If that is accurate, I have to say you were right in the other thread. This would be a TEAM friendly deal. Yes, I said it. Red is right and I am wrong (assuming this is accurate).

its all relying on the 2 cap sites

they both seem to have about the same first 3 cap numbers then have totally different 4 and 5th year number

and who the hell knows if either of them are anywhere close to right

[Fritz]

I'm sorry, but we prefer to point out others failures here on packerrats. Like Fritz and his Rashan Gary predictions (in fairness, most every rat not named Harrel hated that pick).

Dammit, Bobble, I was trying to turn the narrative and count on Packerrats' laziness so that next year I could start saying "I knew Gary was going to be great!"

As for Rodgers, I think that trading Adams will be the best thing for him as a QB. He has been best when he's been challenged - exhibit A being when Le Fleur came into town and Rodgers seemed grumpy about it - but he grudgingly adapted and won two MVP's in a row. Now, his dependence on Adams can be broken and he can throw to multiple receivers (well, once Cobb gets hurt) and actually make the offense better.

I hope Joe is right - hope there are all kinds of articles about how much Aaron Rodgers is going to suffer without Davante Adams.

Finally, why is everyone so worried about WR? They have Amari Rodgers!!!