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I've got a lot more faith in what Mcafee says than any of the real "journalist" pukes, especially when he says he got the info directly from Rodgers - a bridge Mcafee definitely would not burn by lying about it. WHY would you or anybody else automatically believe any of those media shitheads?Originally posted by Bretsky View PostTex,
Macafee is a tool; he's a know nothing tool who's fed questions by AROD so AROD can give us what he chooses. He's the last guy I'd listen to because he wont' ask anything AROD doesn't want to freely give us. He's not interested in the truth; he just throws the slowpitch softball questions/comments and the Rodgers gets to decide which field to hit it to.
I respect AROD letting us know he's staying with GB, but then his comment about things not being accurate without offering anything more is the classic Rodgers I've become used to. I will cheer for him intensely as long as he's a GB Packer, but he's a snarky little primadonna prick that wants to be smarter than everybody else, be right about everything, and wants his image to reflect perfection regardless of what each individual scenario smells like.
Regardless I'm glad our regular season MVP is returning. Now I hope he'll start playing like one in the playoffs before our time runs out.
REGARDING PLAYERS LOSSES, I too think Z is gone, I think At least one and probably both Douglas and our Pro Bowl LB are gone. That's where it starts that we lose at least two out of three of them.
Do you disagree or are you arguing we're going to save all three of them ?
I don't care about Cobb, and I think it's possible they keep Crosby and Tonyan on one year deals. I would not be surprised either way on those three.
It really seems like you're swallowing the idiocy some are spewing about Rodgers' attitude. Have you seen or heard literally any evidence from anybody in the know - current players, coaches, janitors, etc. - condemning Rodgers or backing up any of the crap spewed about him? And all that is aside from the fact that he's indisputably the best player in the NFL now, probably the GOAT.
As for who if anybody is lost, aside from Zadarius, none of those. Am I arguing that we save Tonyan, MVS, Campbell, Douglas, etc.? a big hell yeah to that. We'd be better off with a new kicker, completely aside from cap issues. I also don't really much care about Cobb, but cutting him and bringing him back cheap would be better than most other cheap alternatives.
As for any dumbasses that still can't comprehend the cap, the team is fully capable to manipulate things and keep any of these worth keeping, and I don't expect any "cap hell" situation down the road either with the obvious cap increases over time. This "complete rebuild" shit is just plain stupid.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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The best thing about this deal is there will never be a more motivated Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs than one who hears questions about his performance all freaking season. "Is he losing it" got stats that made MVP seasons. He will be worked into a lather with the "yeah, he was the MVP, but..." talk. Nobody performs better with a boulder on his shoulder and he revels in that misery.
If Gute opens the checkbook like he says he will you can lock that trip to Glendale, AZ in as the NFC representative. We will finally have organizational alignment of goals between the club who wants to win and the QB who largely wanted to be known as the best but (sometimes at the expense of being the most successful), in order to bring his actual legacy in line with his perception of what he wants, realistically needs another SB to quiet the critics. He lives to quiet the critics, real or imagined.
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12 kept us in it for 1 1/2 quarters then dillion got injured and we were nothing, nothing, on o.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostThe Packers were -yo, OBJ!- and are a bona fide #2 WR away from winning the ring. Promised land is closer than you think.
Special teams lost the game. But 12 kinda did as well. His refusal to play with Taylor at rb sealed the deal. Jones vant play every down. That is one proven thing.
I wonder if putting live in for a couple series would have done something. Sf biggest d weakness was CB depth but we never tested it.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Good post here, teacher. And I hope the critics point out, over and over, how often Rodgers, in the playoff game this year, will throw only to Adams. Hell, he wouldn't even throw to Lazard, and supposedly Rodgers trusted him.Originally posted by Der Lehrer View PostThe best thing about this deal is there will never be a more motivated Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs than one who hears questions about his performance all freaking season. "Is he losing it" got stats that made MVP seasons. He will be worked into a lather with the "yeah, he was the MVP, but..." talk. Nobody performs better with a boulder on his shoulder and he revels in that misery.
If Gute opens the checkbook like he says he will you can lock that trip to Glendale, AZ in as the NFC representative. We will finally have organizational alignment of goals between the club who wants to win and the QB who largely wanted to be known as the best but (sometimes at the expense of being the most successful), in order to bring his actual legacy in line with his perception of what he wants, realistically needs another SB to quiet the critics. He lives to quiet the critics, real or imagined."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI've got a lot more faith in what Mcafee says than any of the real "journalist" pukes, especially when he says he got the info directly from Rodgers - a bridge Mcafee definitely would not burn by lying about it. WHY would you or anybody else automatically believe any of those media shitheads?
It really seems like you're swallowing the idiocy some are spewing about Rodgers' attitude. Have you seen or heard literally any evidence from anybody in the know - current players, coaches, janitors, etc. - condemning Rodgers or backing up any of the crap spewed about him? And all that is aside from the fact that he's indisputably the best player in the NFL now, probably the GOAT.
As for who if anybody is lost, aside from Zadarius, none of those. Am I arguing that we save Tonyan, MVS, Campbell, Douglas, etc.? a big hell yeah to that. We'd be better off with a new kicker, completely aside from cap issues. I also don't really much care about Cobb, but cutting him and bringing him back cheap would be better than most other cheap alternatives.
As for any dumbasses that still can't comprehend the cap, the team is fully capable to manipulate things and keep any of these worth keeping, and I don't expect any "cap hell" situation down the road either with the obvious cap increases over time. This "complete rebuild" shit is just plain stupid.
Going to say it again Tex. Mcafee is a nothing; he's Rodgers Tool. He gives us a small segment of one side of the story. In other words, the small portion that Rodgers wants to put out.
Back when things were clearly ugly with Gutebag and Rodgers, if Gutebag used somebody on a weekly basis after burning all kinds of bridges with regular reporters, I would not value that guy either.
I'm not sure I'm hound Rodges for his attitude; dude wants to play at a high level and win at a high level. Now if you are asking me if he's arrogant, full of himself, deceitful, all knowing, unable to be accept fault......ya....he is. But that doesn't mean we can't cheer for him and appreciate him as the GOAT or one of the GOAT as well. And I think plenty would agree, in and out of the media. A lot of these "media guys" were well thought of before AROD arrived, and they have keep decent relationships with both Packers players and Packer management. They are far better sources than Rodgers Tool IMO. Even Tauscher walks a fine line in how he'll comment sometimes and nobody disliked Tauscher as a media guy.
Last but not least, I wish we could make a friendly bet about the Packers losing players. You seem to think we can keep them all. I can see Tonyan coming back cheap since he was injured. Z is gone but I think we agree on that.
The two floaters you seem to think we will keep are Cambell and Douglas. I wish I could come up with a bet but I would bet you for sure one is good as gone and will sign with another team for more than what we can afford. And I think the odds are slightly greater than 50% that we lose both. If we were neighbors we'd be betting a case of beer or something for the hell of it..lol
I kind of think MVS walks too; if he's going to get 8MIL/year I can't see us wanting to pay near that.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I agree. Z, Douglas and MVS are probably gone. Decent chance of keeping Campbell and Tonyan. Might work out okay for the Packers since Edge, CB and WR are probably the strongest positions in the 2022 draft.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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This is the one chance Douglas has to cash in. He's not coming back to GB for a discount. The Packers also have a strong CB group. I see no chance of him returning.
Campbell is probably someone the Packers want to keep, so they will make a play there. Other teams will no doubt offer more, but Campbell may be inclined to remain in a good situation at a slight discount if the Packers can at least offer competitive money.
The issue is that everyone's cap space is going up...so guys are going to have the chance to get paid. MVS is a likely casualty because this is also likely his one good chance to get a huge deal. Green Bay does not pay top dollar unless you are nearing the end of your career.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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hahahahaha McAfee is SOMETHING because he is Rodgers' tool. He's the way we get accurate info about Rodgers unfiltered by the bullshit of the media pukes. I never used to like watching him until he started having Rodgers on regularly either - I can see why you don't like him. But he is what he is - access to Rodgers.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostGoing to say it again Tex. Mcafee is a nothing; he's Rodgers Tool. He gives us a small segment of one side of the story. In other words, the small portion that Rodgers wants to put out.
Back when things were clearly ugly with Gutebag and Rodgers, if Gutebag used somebody on a weekly basis after burning all kinds of bridges with regular reporters, I would not value that guy either.
I'm not sure I'm hound Rodges for his attitude; dude wants to play at a high level and win at a high level. Now if you are asking me if he's arrogant, full of himself, deceitful, all knowing, unable to be accept fault......ya....he is. But that doesn't mean we can't cheer for him and appreciate him as the GOAT or one of the GOAT as well. And I think plenty would agree, in and out of the media. A lot of these "media guys" were well thought of before AROD arrived, and they have keep decent relationships with both Packers players and Packer management. They are far better sources than Rodgers Tool IMO. Even Tauscher walks a fine line in how he'll comment sometimes and nobody disliked Tauscher as a media guy.
Last but not least, I wish we could make a friendly bet about the Packers losing players. You seem to think we can keep them all. I can see Tonyan coming back cheap since he was injured. Z is gone but I think we agree on that.
The two floaters you seem to think we will keep are Cambell and Douglas. I wish I could come up with a bet but I would bet you for sure one is good as gone and will sign with another team for more than what we can afford. And I think the odds are slightly greater than 50% that we lose both. If we were neighbors we'd be betting a case of beer or something for the hell of it..lol
I kind of think MVS walks too; if he's going to get 8MIL/year I can't see us wanting to pay near that.
What do you really know of that says Rodgers is "arrogant, full of himself, deceitful, all knowing, unable to be accept fault....." other than what those all world knownothing troublemaking shitheads of the media claim about him? Anything? Tauscher is first and foremost a former Packer with a degree of inside info, not really an outsider idiot media puke. And to my knowledge, Tauscher has never said any of that negative shit about Rodgers.
As for who's coming back, there will be plenty of money/cap space to bring back just about everybody - how many times do I, LaFleur, Gutekunst, and a few responsible well thought out articles need to say that? Even Zadarius, the most likely to be gone, isn't gone yet, which leads me to suspect just maybe there will be money to even bring him back on a restructure. The only way Valdez-Scantling won't be back is if some team breaks the bank and makes him such an outlandish offer that it's wiser for the Packers not to match it. IMO, Campbell and Douglas are almost certain to be retained. Of course we keep Jaire and Davante. I think we let Crosby retire - addition by subtraction.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Still waiting on ARod’s contract. Not sure how that isn’t done yet.
I am not sure how the front office thinks it can wait until the last second and still deal with all the players that need to be “adjusted” also before the new year starts.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Damn, screwed up my post. What if This is all a big plot by ARod to fuck Gutes over. Make him jump through all the hoops and then retire anyway. Or demand a trade anyway.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostStill waiting on ARod’s contract. Not sure how that isn’t done yet.
I am not sure how the front office thinks it can wait until the last second and still deal with all the players that need to be “adjusted” also before the new year starts.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostStill waiting on ARod’s contract. Not sure how that isn’t done yet.
I am not sure how the front office thinks it can wait until the last second and still deal with all the players that need to be “adjusted” also before the new year starts.
pretty unlikely it's the front office imoTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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