NEXT YEAR AARON RODGERS WILL BE

[Fritz]

Damn, screwed up my post. What if This is all a big plot by ARod to fuck Gutes over. Make him jump through all the hoops and then retire anyway. Or demand a trade anyway.

Over and over we were told that Rodgers had to be the first domino; our mistake perhaps was thinking that once Rodgers decided to stay, the contract would necessarily soon follow.

But as far as I can tell, he has yet to sign any new contract, and so there is no way for Gutekunst to know what kind of cap he has in order to try to sign Campbell and others. I wonder too if he's waiting to see what Rodgers's contract is before he renegotiates with Preston Smith, Billy Turner, et al.

So Rodgers has made his big decision yet it's still a clusterfuck. This is all getting so old.

And I was not encouraged by Joemailman's recent post explaining that Rodgers' regular-season exploits would help the Packers get into good playoff positioning, and that they could still win a SB with him even if he played poorly in the second half of playoff games - it would simply require really good defense and ST. I mean, Joe is correct, but it's not heartening to say that you can win a SB in spite of your $50 Mill a year quarterback playing poorly in the playoffs. For that kind of money, you expect closer to Joe Montana than Rex Grossman.

If Rodgers really is worried about his legacy, and he seems to be, he'd take a more team-friendly contract, so he could have as good a supporting cast as possible. At the very least, he'd get this contract donerightnow so Gutekunst has a chance, at least, to re-sign Campbell and be a player in re-signing (or signing) other guys he thinks would help.

But no. The negotiating period starts tomorrow, and still no Rodgers contract.

Sigh.

[Bretsky]

Over and over we were told that Rodgers had to be the first domino; our mistake perhaps was thinking that once Rodgers decided to stay, the contract would necessarily soon follow.

But as far as I can tell, he has yet to sign any new contract, and so there is no way for Gutekunst to know what kind of cap he has in order to try to sign Campbell and others. I wonder too if he's waiting to see what Rodgers's contract is before he renegotiates with Preston Smith, Billy Turner, et al.

So Rodgers has made his big decision yet it's still a clusterfuck. This is all getting so old.

And I was not encouraged by Joemailman's recent post explaining that Rodgers' regular-season exploits would help the Packers get into good playoff positioning, and that they could still win a SB with him even if he played poorly in the second half of playoff games - it would simply require really good defense and ST. I mean, Joe is correct, but it's not heartening to say that you can win a SB in spite of your $50 Mill a year quarterback playing poorly in the playoffs. For that kind of money, you expect closer to Joe Montana than Rex Grossman.

If Rodgers really is worried about his legacy, and he seems to be, he'd take a more team-friendly contract, so he could have as good a supporting cast as possible. At the very least, he'd get this contract donerightnow so Gutekunst has a chance, at least, to re-sign Campbell and be a player in re-signing (or signing) other guys he thinks would help.

But no. The negotiating period starts tomorrow, and still no Rodgers contract.

Sigh.

It's realy confusing because AROD is so worried with his image and even his closest are having a hard time with some of this. They aren't hammering him but they've stopped defendinig his antics, and yes, that shows there are some flaws here.

In an earlier interview, AROD implied he wanted this worked out ahead of when the franchise period opened, which was several weeks ago. That was just Rodgers talk in the end. Even when it broke he was signing, and sourced stated the terms of the contract, he hid behind his PC (instead of talking with anybody because so many bridges have been bured with media types question AROD not to his liking) and tweeted out he would be staying, BUT the terms were inaccturate...and then offered Nothing Else on what was and what was not accurate.

In the end, I'm sure we'll hear more from his Tool, McAfeee, who Tex is right, is not worthless because he offers something to us ...aka....a small portion of the truth. But Mcafee was a nothing before all of this, and that is why AROD chose him. Any media head for GB worth a penny at some point questioned AROD, hurt his feelings, and now has been banished from any optional interviews.

Wilde has been really really good for a long time, before AROD. He has a great show with Tauscher. When pressed Tausch asked Wilde what he'd ask AROD if he just had one question.
Wilde said early on AROD was so friendly with all, and a pleasure to work with through the good and the bad. But was understanding if his job as well as the media to explore the truth.

Wilde said he'd ask in a summary, what caused all of this change in him the past 10 years . I think we'd all like to know this

[call_me_ishmael]

How do y’all know a deal isn’t done?

[texaspackerbacker]

Bretsky, your post above is like a chicken or egg thing. Did Rodgers burn his bridges with the damned media because they kept misrepresenting and disrespecting him? Or did the media disrespect him because he first stopped communicating through them? You and others in here seem way too quick to take the God damned media's side in this. I think I asked this before and never got an answer from you, what proof or evidence has there ever been of Rodgers being selfish, arrogant, or a bad teammate or any of the shit the media and some in here accuse him of?

[ThunderDan]

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[ThunderDan]

How do y’all know a deal isn’t done?

It has to be reported to the league office,

[Bretsky]

Bretsky, your post above is like a chicken or egg thing. Did Rodgers burn his bridges with the damned media because they kept misrepresenting and disrespecting him? Or did the media disrespect him because he first stopped communicating through them? You and others in here seem way too quick to take the God damned media's side in this. I think I asked this before and never got an answer from you, what proof or evidence has there ever been of Rodgers being selfish, arrogant, or a bad teammate or any of the shit the media and some in here accuse him of?

Tex,

It could be a combo; once upon a time Rodgers had a good relationship with the media even when they gave him his due, and criticized him. That mentality form AROD imo changed. It's why he picked a zero to represent him. He can make this guy and use him and abuse him as his mouthpiece. I'm not blaiming AROD only, but NO WAY am I blaming the media only. It's time for you to pay attention to the big picture, and just admit.....he's changed.

Listen to the friends he used to have who are in the media; interviewing and doing radio shows. LIsten to his snarky hidden messages from last year; and in the end the media was 100% correct in that he had serious serious serious griped with GB and nearly didn't return last year.
Just hear the data text. It's too obvious

FWIW, I don't know if I consider him a horrible teammate; but I'd be genuinely curious as to how he's viewed by players besides Devante Adams. My guess is overall position; but it would not be a majority by any means iMO

[Bretsky]

, what proof or evidence has there ever been of Rodgers being selfish, arrogant, or a bad teammate or any of the shit the media and some in here accuse him of?

Do you listen to AROD and the tone of his interviews ? Do you listen to the talk shows among those who cover both the players and GB, and to be quite honest have open communications and positive communications with nearly all of the players ? I'm not going to discount the entire media as being terrible people and AROD as being a flipping Saint. A lot of the media were good people before AROD and still are. I do think it's a combo. Once upon a time AROD had thick skin. He no longer does. So I'd blame both of them undoubtedly for the severing of ties and leaving us stuck with a small portion of the truth that Mcafee is fed.

You know as well as I do the media cannot repeat and give us everything they know. The Packers GM and entire Brass as well as the media has a very soft hand when it comes to AROD; Gute isn't ever going to tell us what really happenged behind closed doors when AROD was unhappy, OR throwing fits OR asking to be traded OR just being difficult.

And good media members have talks with players on and off the record . We're never getting absolutes from anything with these matters.

So our options are to be very aware of the collection of all of the interviews/comments by media and AROD's troll and make a decision, OR just ignore things and choose one side of the other.

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[call_me_ishmael]

It has to be reported to the league office,

For sure but I would imagine they have the basic parameters in place and are working on other stuff before locking in the nuance to minimize the future pain depending on what's needed. That is my guess, anyway. It would be really weird for him to commit w/o having a basic framework on contract in place IMO.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Bretsky, your post above is like a chicken or egg thing. Did Rodgers burn his bridges with the damned media because they kept misrepresenting and disrespecting him? Or did the media disrespect him because he first stopped communicating through them? You and others in here seem way too quick to take the God damned media's side in this. I think I asked this before and never got an answer from you, what proof or evidence has there ever been of Rodgers being selfish, arrogant, or a bad teammate or any of the shit the media and some in here accuse him of?

Neither, AROD has ALWAYS been like this..

[Fosco33]

Why do people think Aaron owes us more details on a contract he apparently hadn’t signed?

Have you ever negotiated anything that benefited you by giving away your positions?

Why do you assume the deal isn’t signed or worry about the other dominoes that need to fall for the cap, etc? The Packers have almost ALWAYS waited til the last possible second on things that have to be released… because it’s a strategic advantage to know what everyone else is doing first.

I’m supportive of Aaron. More so this year than any other. I don’t think there’s been anything he’s said or done that wasn’t authentic. His decision to not get vaxd ultimately hurt/cost the Packers nothing. And frankly - he was more right than wrong about that situation.

Unlike Favre (or Brady to some degree), he was straightforward and didn’t waffle.

I hope the deal terms get announced soon too but I really don’t give it too much thought. It’s just silly math drama. and there’s only 3-4 things that matter between now and Sept (FA, Draft, Camp, etc). Rest of it is just filler.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

[QUOTE=Fosco33;1112281]Why do people think Aaron owes us more details on a contract he apparently hadn

Oh oh - 'he was more right than wrong about that situation'

Take it to fyi..

[SudsMcBucky]

Do we even know if AR is signing an extension? He never said anything of the sort. All his quote said was that he's returning to GB. How do we know it's not only to play under the last year of his contract so he can then become a FA?

[SudsMcBucky]

NVM

[Fosco33]

[QUOTE=oldbutnotdeadyet;1112282]

Why do people think Aaron owes us more details on a contract he apparently hadn

Oh oh - 'he was more right than wrong about that situation'

Take it to fyi..

Hahaha. I’ve said all I’ve needed to say in FYI and you’ve contributed nothing to the debate.

And yes, Aaron was more right than wrong. As this is football related and in no way political - NFL drops all restrictions, mandates, etc:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/03/sports/football/nfl-covid-protocol.html

As partial would say -moveondotorg