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  • #16
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    So J-Lo to Denver for a 2nd rounder.

    Butte signs a 10 year $250M contract extension with a $150M signing bonus that’s really just a 5 year deal. Packers cook the cap and Butte’s 2022 cap hit comes down to $19.25M.
    Sounds like a plan hahahahaha.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #17
      Good Luck to Hackett. He seems like a good guy and a good coach, but picking a head coach who is the current OC from a team where the head coach is the brains of the offense like LaFleur doesn't seem like all that great an idea.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        Good Luck to Hackett. He seems like a good guy and a good coach, but picking a head coach who is the current OC from a team where the head coach is the brains of the offense like LaFleur doesn't seem like all that great an idea.
        Well to be fair it worked to pluck guys from Holmgren. Most key hires were from the offensive side of the ball (Mariucci/Chucky/Reid..ets)
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #19
          I was never a fan of Hackett during his Jacksonville years. I thought Bortles regressed every year he was there until he was out of the league. Maybe he was better than I thought, or maybe he learned from MLF. He is a legacy guy, but those guys don't always work out. I guess we will see if I'm correct or not, but in a mild agreement with Tex, I don't think he should get credit for an offense designed by MLF and executed by ARod.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #20
            I think losing Stenavich is going to hurt a lot.

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            • #21
              Virtually every media report talks about his personality and get-alongable ness. I hope he's not the glue guy that keeps everyone else loose and egos in check. I play this role at work so I know how important it is with team dynamics. Of course, I'm biased.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                Mahomes signed his 10 yr $477M extension in 2020. His cap hit for 2021? A little under $7.5M. Chefs gained $17M in cap relief simply by cooking Mahomes’ contract entering the 2021 season.

                As someone who has passed all 4 sections of the Wisconsin CPA exams (not a licensed CPA cos nobody would fucking hire me) trust me when I say this: the cap can always be cooked. The cap, in the modern era, is nothing more than an accounting tool the owners utilize to provide themselves with an excuse to cut labor expenses.

                The Packers can certainly make Butte the highest paid QB. And make Fresno Freak the highest paid WR. And J-Alex the highest paid CB. And hand Campbell $12M a year. And give Douglas $10M/yr. All with a boatload of frogskins and by cooking the cap.
                2 aspects to this,
                1) I trust overthecap more than CPA burger flipper
                2) we have past extensions signing bonus that still has to be paid this year. Thats the majority of the extension cap hit (or at least i think that's why it's in the 20mil rage)

                Oh and one more point, I would rather not win a Superbowl only to turn around and sacrife 5-7 years of cap he'll.
                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                George Orwell

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                  2 aspects to this,
                  1) I trust overthecap more than CPA burger flipper
                  2) we have past extensions signing bonus that still has to be paid this year. Thats the majority of the extension cap hit (or at least i think that's why it's in the 20mil rage)

                  Oh and one more point, I would rather not win a Superbowl only to turn around and sacrife 5-7 years of cap he'll.
                  APB may be correct only the Mahommes was still on his 4 year $16 million first contract when he signed the extension. KC had plenty of space to play cap games with. After this year Mahommes counts at least $40 million agains the KC cap.

                  GB doesn't have the luxury of having ARod on his first contract with a $10 million signing bonus.

                  Also, APB obviously committed some sort of ethical offense. Our firm can't find enough CPAs and we offer $75,000+ to start. APB could have his pick of jobs if he truly was a licensed CPA in WI.
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                    2 aspects to this,
                    1) I trust overthecap more than CPA burger flipper
                    2) we have past extensions signing bonus that still has to be paid this year. Thats the majority of the extension cap hit (or at least i think that's why it's in the 20mil rage)

                    Oh and one more point, I would rather not win a Superbowl only to turn around and sacrife 5-7 years of cap he'll.
                    You wouldn't have five years of cap hell. They'd rip the bandaid off in one year I believe. Plus the cap is going to go way up since it's been depressed. They expect it to go up to 270 by 2024. It's 208 right now.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                      What assistant coaches will Hackett try to poach ?

                      Adam Stenavich as OC or Mike Smith, the LB coach as DC ? Maybe Jerry Gray as DC for Denver ?
                      I think MLF can block them, no? I would think he wouldn't want Hackett to raid the staff.
                      Also, Adam Stenavich has done amazing work with the OL, it would be a shame to lose him. I'm not sure Getsy is as crucial.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                        I think MLF can block them, no? I would think he wouldn't want Hackett to raid the staff.
                        Also, Adam Stenavich has done amazing work with the OL, it would be a shame to lose him. I'm not sure Getsy is as crucial.
                        As of 2020 NFL teams cannot block coaches from leaving for a coordinator position.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          Well to be fair it worked to pluck guys from Holmgren. Most key hires were from the offensive side of the ball (Mariucci/Chucky/Reid..ets)
                          I think his coaching style was different. His senior assistants seemed to be more involved in the planning of the offense, but maybe that's just the way I remember it because it was what the press talked about at the time.

                          McCarthy/Philbin were a different story, though. Remember when Joe Philbin was the golden boy of the NFL because of the Packers' Super Bowl offense in 2009, 2010, 11, etc? When he got the Miami job, everybody was gnashing their teeth because they thought we were going back to a series of .500 seasons, but we did just fine, and Philbin was a disaster in Miami. After they fired him, I don't think he ever worked again for anyone but McCarthy a couple more times, did he? Maybe he had another job in there somewhere I'm forgetting, but the point is, losing him didn't seem to hurt the Packers and didn't help Miami much. Is Hackett more of a Joe Philbin, or more like Andy Reid?

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                          • #28
                            Philbin is asst. HC and OL coach for DAL.

                            I think Hackett is more Philbin than Reid. Some people think Andy Reid is more of the mad scientist/savant type; I don't get that vibe from Hackett.
                            With MLF calling the plays I don't know how good he really is; you could go off his time in JAX maybe, and assumed he's learned a few things since then.

                            Fangio is a very very good DC, but I thought he was iffy as a HC for Denver. Hackett might be able to do better; except for QB, they have some talent on the roster.

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                            • #29
                              i'll be honest, i didn't even know the guys name until today or yesterday

                              its lafleurs offence, he runs the whole thing and calls all the plays

                              not sure if this is that big of a deal IMO

                              and i'm not sure its that great of a hire for the boncos, especially if he can't bring rodgers and adams with him like some people seem to think is the only reason he got hired there

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by red View Post
                                i'll be honest, i didn't even know the guys name until today or yesterday

                                its lafleurs offence, he runs the whole thing and calls all the plays

                                not sure if this is that big of a deal IMO

                                and i'm not sure its that great of a hire for the boncos, especially if he can't bring rodgers and adams with him like some people seem to think is the only reason he got hired there
                                reading reports he's looking to take the OL coach, that would hurt I think

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