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  • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Agreed. I would like to see them use some of the capital to trade down and acquire more resources. I always loved early TT taking _a lot_ of shots and building stellar depth. So far that hasn't been Gooter but I'd like to see it this year. Replenish the depth a bit.
    I highly disagree. The current Packers roster, even with the departures we've seen, is one of the deeper rosters in the league. That is how we've been able to get by when we lose 2-3 starters on the OL...and Jaire...and Z... for entire seasons and still finish as the #1 seed in the conference.

    When you have a strong roster, there is NO need to trade down for volume. Half the guys we draft will struggle to make the roster as it is. We already have a ton of picks. Why the hell do we need more?
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    • Originally posted by King Friday View Post
      I highly disagree. The current Packers roster, even with the departures we've seen, is one of the deeper rosters in the league. That is how we've been able to get by when we lose 2-3 starters on the OL...and Jaire...and Z... for entire seasons and still finish as the #1 seed in the conference.

      When you have a strong roster, there is NO need to trade down for volume. Half the guys we draft will struggle to make the roster as it is. We already have a ton of picks. Why the hell do we need more?
      Word.

      Btw, trade for DK Metcalf! Rectify the mistake of taking the Fucking Center over the Black Hulk.

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      • I'm all for getting Metcalf. While the WRs in the draft are all nice, Metcalf would be a monster in a Rodgers led offense.
        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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        • Press announcement....

          The PackerRat$ website announces the firing of their resident Cap Cooking Squad

          'MVS, Davante Adams, Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick and Zadarius Smith will no longer be getting their mail in Green Bay, but in far flung remote locations.

          Due to the NFL salary cap.

          Instead of the phrase, "you can always cook the cap," from now on, it will be "you can never cook the cap".

          Because you can't cook the cap. Backload a contract here, convert bonuses there, but the cap is real and can only be massaged and manipulated. The reason we lost these five good ballplayers is their deals did not fit into our cap situation

          Tex and Tank have been claimed by the new USFL and are welcome to cook their brains out on that circuit.

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          • Originally posted by King Friday View Post
            I highly disagree. The current Packers roster, even with the departures we've seen, is one of the deeper rosters in the league. That is how we've been able to get by when we lose 2-3 starters on the OL...and Jaire...and Z... for entire seasons and still finish as the #1 seed in the conference.

            When you have a strong roster, there is NO need to trade down for volume. Half the guys we draft will struggle to make the roster as it is. We already have a ton of picks. Why the hell do we need more?
            Yep.

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            • Originally posted by King Friday View Post
              I'm all for getting Metcalf. While the WRs in the draft are all nice, Metcalf would be a monster in a Rodgers led offense.
              No thank you.

              We need to run the MLF offense. Not the McCarthy 2014-2018 offense of scramble and throw it down the field to Metcalf.
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                No thank you.

                We need to run the MLF offense. Not the McCarthy 2014-2018 offense of scramble and throw it down the field to Metcalf.
                You don't need to have pedestrian WRs to run the MLF offense. Having a deep threat is actually necessary, and we've now lost our 2 best options in that regard.
                It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                • Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                  I'm all for getting Metcalf. While the WRs in the draft are all nice, Metcalf would be a monster in a Rodgers led offense.
                  Butte doesn’t trust rookie wideouts b/c it often takes time for a rook to master all the S,E,X,Y positions. Hell, Adams, as a rook, spent time in Butte’s doghouse.

                  Gotta get a hotshot vet of NFL wars. Metcalf fits the bill. Plus, he has a high futbol IQ. Butte loves smart WRs.

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                  • Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                    I highly disagree. The current Packers roster, even with the departures we've seen, is one of the deeper rosters in the league. That is how we've been able to get by when we lose 2-3 starters on the OL...and Jaire...and Z... for entire seasons and still finish as the #1 seed in the conference.

                    When you have a strong roster, there is NO need to trade down for volume. Half the guys we draft will struggle to make the roster as it is. We already have a ton of picks. Why the hell do we need more?
                    Have you looked at our roster recently?

                    At WR we have Blair, Cobb, Gafford, Rodgers, Winfree, Taylor, Lazard

                    OL is Myers, Jenkins, Runyan, Bakhtiari, Newman, Menet, Van Lanen, Hanson, Nijman. 5 starters if everyone somehow gets healthy, a swing T and shit.
                    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                    -Tim Harmston

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                    • My biggest concern with Metcalf is if 12 decides to focus on him in games like Adams. I kinda think Metcalf is better than Adams for our o. But if we can get him for less than the 1st and 2nd we are winning
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                      George Orwell

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                      • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                        Press announcement....

                        The PackerRat$ website announces the firing of their resident Cap Cooking Squad

                        'MVS, Davante Adams, Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick and Zadarius Smith will no longer be getting their mail in Green Bay, but in far flung remote locations.

                        Due to the NFL salary cap.

                        Instead of the phrase, "you can always cook the cap," from now on, it will be "you can never cook the cap".

                        Because you can't cook the cap. Backload a contract here, convert bonuses there, but the cap is real and can only be massaged and manipulated. The reason we lost these five good ballplayers is their deals did not fit into our cap situation

                        Tex and Tank have been claimed by the new USFL and are welcome to cook their brains out on that circuit.
                        Adams would still be a Packer today if he wanted to be a Packer today. Packers were willing to shell out more frogskins than the Raiders. Adams, Campbell and Douglas all coulda been retained.

                        The rest of your aforementioned players were expendable. With Gary Lightbody’s unexpected rise to 89 overall rating on Madden, it was either P-Smith or Z-Smith. Go with the guy with durability. Turner? Meh. Yokozuna’s ain’t difficult to replace. MVS? $10M a year for a one trick pony is the definition of overpaid.

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                        • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          Adams would still be a Packer today if he wanted to be a Packer today. Packers were willing to shell out more frogskins than the Raiders. Adams, Campbell and Douglas all coulda been retained.

                          The rest of your aforementioned players were expendable. With Gary Lightbody’s unexpected rise to 89 overall rating on Madden, it was either P-Smith or Z-Smith. Go with the guy with durability. Turner? Meh. Yokozuna’s ain’t difficult to replace. MVS? $10M a year for a one trick pony is the definition of overpaid.
                          Tank, you don't know what you are talking about, how are we supposed to know what you are babbling.

                          We lost guys bc they didn't fit our cap situation. The idea that you can somehow "cook" the cap to retain players is bullshit.

                          The cap is the cap.

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                          • KY, APB makes a lot more sense than you here. Pretty much all he said is true about the players with the possible exception of MVS being just a one trick pony.

                            You are dead wrong, as several others are in here about the cap. The Packers absolutely did "cook the cap". Bakhtiari, Rodgers, P. Smith, and several others had contracts that were excellent examples of that. There is still more that could and should be done too - Alexander and Amos at very least - which will open up more cap space to sign maybe a WR like Fuller or D. Smith. The cap has never been a serious problem, and very likely the increases in coming years will make it not a problem even then, or you can always "cook it"/kick things down the road even farther.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • Rodgers did a very Rodgers friendly deal that could really screw us in the end. Not everybody cooks the cap. Teams with 40 to 60 mil of dead money are going to pay down the road
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                                My biggest concern with Metcalf is if 12 decides to focus on him in games like Adams. I kinda think Metcalf is better than Adams for our o. But if we can get him for less than the 1st and 2nd we are winning
                                The Raiders’ 1st should probably get a deal done. Alternatively, a 2nd rounder plus 3rd rounder.

                                Butte was willing to share the wealth when he was throwing to the likes of Jennings, Driver, Nelson and J-Mike. Trade for DK and draft a hotshot WR, and Butte would be sharing again.

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