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  • #61
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Good point about the higher cap number if they get rid of him. If that can't somehow be overcome, then we keep him another year, show him off in the preseason, and hopefully we can get something worthwhile for him a year from now.
    I want him to be so good we have to pick up the 5th year option. Rodgers plays the next 2 years. Then love is our next future hof.
    I dont think that is how it plays out but that is what I want.
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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    • #62
      Yeah, we all want a third HOFer after Rodgers is gone. I doubt Love is it primarily because in his time here, he didn't seem to absorb Rodgers' best quality, the prevention of interceptions. I want whoever comes next to observe and be Rodgers-like in that way more than anything else.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        Yeah, we all want a third HOFer after Rodgers is gone. I doubt Love is it primarily because in his time here, he didn't seem to absorb Rodgers' best quality, the prevention of interceptions. I want whoever comes next to observe and be Rodgers-like in that way more than anything else.
        Rodgers is a massive massive massive exception to ints. Comparing someone to him is like saying I want them to have a Huston sized impact on the position.
        Rodgers is in the top 5 in history. And arguably #1 in history.
        I'm happy with a Favre level of play, and yet that statement is ridiculous as well.

        Fuck its good to be a packers fan (that cap is imaginary, the cap is imaginary)
        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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        • #64
          Exactly my point about interceptions. It's more a matter of mindset than accuracy. There are other very very accurate throwers, but nobody including Love has the mindset not to throw picks. Whoever the next guy is, hopefully they can pound that mindset into him. The cap isn't imaginary, but it IS beatable. And hell yeah, it's GREAT to be a Packer fan.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #65
            Despite Rodgers talent, he still only has one ring.

            There are far more important factors than avoiding INTs.
            It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              Exactly my point about interceptions. It's more a matter of mindset than accuracy. There are other very very accurate throwers, but nobody including Love has the mindset not to throw picks. Whoever the next guy is, hopefully they can pound that mindset into him. The cap isn't imaginary, but it IS beatable. And hell yeah, it's GREAT to be a Packer fan.
              We have $25 million dead cap money this year. Rodgers hit in 2024 makes it tough to keep him. If we move on there is $70 million dead money. I said this is a 2 year window. It might be 3 to have rodgers as QB but basically 2024 and 2025 are years we no longer have a shot at the owl. Based on the last 3 years playoffs i question if we can win now.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #67
                The only way I'd trade Love would be if one of the Deshaun Watson contest losers offers us a youngish starter with all but the minimum salary converted to a March 14 roster bonus.
                Last edited by NewsBruin; 03-15-2022, 01:54 PM.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  We have $25 million dead cap money this year. Rodgers hit in 2024 makes it tough to keep him. If we move on there is $70 million dead money. I said this is a 2 year window. It might be 3 to have rodgers as QB but basically 2024 and 2025 are years we no longer have a shot at the owl. Based on the last 3 years playoffs i question if we can win now.
                  It's all going to work out. They aren't winning anything post Rodgers anyway. They are gonna need to rebuild and that's fine. I am 100% on board with #TeamTradeLove and get a player now so you have a contributor for two of the three years if you're lucky. The goal is to a super bowl within the next three years and ignore the future IMHO. I'm 100% on board with that.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                    Could not agree more.
                    I had issues with live pick for about 48 hrs, then understood there plan.
                    I we pick up loves 5th year at the end of the season it means we likely have another decade plus of great qbing and that is the best possible outcome.
                    If we don't it means new draft pick next year on qb and we hope that one is the long term future.
                    The salary of the fifth year option is guaranteed. That’s why the Blue Panthers haven’t cut Darnold, whose play certainly ain’t worth $18M.

                    You wanna pick up Love’s option and risk paying him, perhaps, $22M to be a bum QB?

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                    • #70
                      Some of you do not read well.

                      Trading Love results in a larger cap hit than retaining him for 2022...on top of the fact that you would then need a new backup QB.

                      There is NO reason to get rid of Love, which is why the Packers will retain him in 2022.
                      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        The salary of the fifth year option is guaranteed. That’s why the Blue Panthers haven’t cut Darnold, whose play certainly ain’t worth $18M.

                        You wanna pick up Love’s option and risk paying him, perhaps, $22M to be a bum QB?
                        My point is the packers know this better than we do. It is fully guarenteed. I hope they pick up loves option as that tells me he is going to be great. You don't take that gamble unless you already know the result (baring injury).

                        Love 5th year being picked up would be a god srnd to us as fans of another decade of great teams (baring injury)
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                          Some of you do not read well.

                          Trading Love results in a larger cap hit than retaining him for 2022...on top of the fact that you would then need a new backup QB.

                          There is NO reason to get rid of Love, which is why the Packers will retain him in 2022.
                          So it comes down to a choice: trade him for a second or third round pick and get an extra $4 million cap hit (assuming that figure is correct) OR keep him as a back up for another year and probably get less in trade for him after next season. I'm about 50/50 on which is the better option.

                          Good Point about the Packers knowing better, Upnorth. I tend to think, though, that they will not think that Love is gonna be great.
                          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                            My point is the packers know this better than we do. It is fully guarenteed. I hope they pick up loves option as that tells me he is going to be great. You don't take that gamble unless you already know the result (baring injury).

                            Love 5th year being picked up would be a god srnd to us as fans of another decade of great teams
                            (baring injury)
                            Yup.

                            Keeping Love under Rodgers for a couple years only helps Love, provided Rodgers doesn't fuck with the kid's head.

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                            • #74
                              Interesting. No one thinks about what Love might be thinking. If you sit me behind Rodgers for all 5 years and then want to sign me after not allowing me to prosper and get a big deal earlier I might not be inclined to let you off very easy. I might be inclined to demand a ludicrous contract and if you refused it, I would hit the FA market.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                                Some of you do not read well.

                                Trading Love results in a larger cap hit than retaining him for 2022...on top of the fact that you would then need a new backup QB.

                                There is NO reason to get rid of Love, which is why the Packers will retain him in 2022.
                                Correct.
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                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
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