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Hill wants to be another high priced receiver. We already spent the Davante money on other positions. Keep the draft choices in a receiver rich draft and sign a veteran free agent.
I would love to have Hill on our team, but the price is too high.
We have a surplus of draft picks now, but like with Davante, most trades are about compensation to the team and more compensation to the player. Crappy teams like the Jets and Fins would have a draft-pick advantage over perennial playoff teams like us. We have picks to overpay to a cross-conference team, but do we have the cap room; we've already set up a few deals with void years to put the 2022 season on the Installment Plan.
I saw NY Jets were an interested team, and that would be a unique hell for Cheetah10. It reminds me of Leveon Bell getting traded to the Meadowlands and dropping off the relevance map for the rest of his career.
And let me close with the thought that NYJ would be a good target to fleece undervalued prototype WRs from, if they're not mentally checked-out and if we had cap space for them.
The reason Hill is on the trading block is that the Chiefs and Hill have not been able to agree on an extension. Question is whether Packers could fit him in under the cap now that they have signed Douglas, Reed and Tonyan, and whether they could agree to an extension. You don't want to give up a high pick or two to rent a player for 1 year.
Edit: MVS is meeting with Chiefs today.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
Chiefs are trading six-time Pro-Bowl WR Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins for five draft picks: a 2022 1st-round pick (No. 29), a 2nd-round pick (No. 50) and a 4th-round pick, as well as 4th- and 6th-round picks in the 2023 draft, sources tell ESPN.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
Wow, he got a lot more than Devante yielded. He is a good player because he is so fast but no way would I pay that especially when you don't have a QB.
He is a good player but a terrible person. I personally wouldn't add a player like this period, and would only consider a better human version of this player/contract combo if my team was right there and needed one extra boost.
Dolphins will not win anything over the next four years so what is the point?
Trading a lot of draft capital for the privilege of signing a player to a market value contract is not smart as a general rule, and this especially true if that player wants Top 5 money and is approaching 30.
(Caveat: Franchise QBs. A top 5-7 QB is a rare commodity and far more valuable than a WR)
Chiefs got the better of that deal. Hill will do fine for himself in sunny Miami since he'll get paid a lot of money and he already has a ring. I'm skeptical his speed will keep and think he'll eventually get cut and Miami could regret losing those picks. Agree the QB situation is not great and maybe signing Hill is to load up for the next QB.
Would make sense for KC to sign MVS as a deep threat to replace Hill, although I think Hill does a LOT more and is a playmaker that Mahomes will really miss.
Wow, he got a lot more than Devante yielded. He is a good player because he is so fast but no way would I pay that especially when you don't have a QB.
He is a good player but a terrible person. I personally wouldn't add a player like this period, and would only consider a better human version of this player/contract combo if my team was right there and needed one extra boost.
Not a whole lot more. The difference in the 22nd Pick instead of the 29th pick is more than a 4th round pick. The deals are actually pretty comparable.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Trading a lot of draft capital for the privilege of signing a player to a market value contract is not smart as a general rule, and this especially true if that player wants Top 5 money and is approaching 30.
(Caveat: Franchise QBs. A top 5-7 QB is a rare commodity and far more valuable than a WR)
Chiefs got the better of that deal. Hill will do fine for himself in sunny Miami since he'll get paid a lot of money and he already has a ring. I'm skeptical his speed will keep and think he'll eventually get cut and Miami could regret losing those picks. Agree the QB situation is not great and maybe signing Hill is to load up for the next QB.
Would make sense for KC to sign MVS as a deep threat to replace Hill, although I think Hill does a LOT more and is a playmaker that Mahomes will really miss.
Exactly. Why would we trade Davante for the reasons you said—only to make a similar trade in the opposite direction for Tyreek. Made no sense.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
I think Davante will get his - Carr threw to him a lot in college, and Adams has only improved since then.
I think they are in a tough division and making the playoffs will be tough, but it seems like a (good) chance at a ring wasn't his top priority.
Finally, I think MVS will do about what he did in GB - he's a deep threat and Mahomes will find him. Losing Hill hurts that offense a LOT but they still have Kelce and other weapons, MVS included.
I've got a interesting question, not directly to Hill, who we all think will regress with Tua.
What happens if Devante slips backwards and MVS breaks out? Do we prove that Rodgers was staring Devante down too much?
Not really. It would show that Rodgers made Davante, not the other way around ....... and also that maybe MVS was better than people gave him credit for.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
Not really. It would show that Rodgers made Davante, not the other way around ....... and also that maybe MVS was better than people gave him credit for.
People other than Rodgers you mean? I have been on the MVS cheering squad for 2 years, but he wasn't worth what he got.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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