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  • #31
    He's a veteran with talent on a cheap no-commitment deal, so that's good. We need WRs 1-4, and I honestly have no idea how we have enough cap surplus to cover our upcoming draft picks.

    The Bleacher Report article gives me concern that Watkins could go off the radar when he loses confidence in the team's confidence in him. He's gonna need vets like Cobb and Aaron Jones to buddy up with him, our medical/training staff to be proactive and honest, and some kind of backchannel to his wife. I'd love for Aaron Rodgers to be the dude who greets him off the plane and reassures him of the team's commitments when he's not targeted, but I don't know if 12 will stick his neck out for anybody. Maybe he could at least treat him to a cheeseburger and listen to two hours of metaphysical theories.

    The latest I could find on Watkins' brother is from February of last year. He was the only guy out of 20 who could make the $1M bail for a state-level gang racketeering arrest. If Florida starts the trial or offers his brother a plea deal that keeps him in-state during the season, that could be a distraction. If they let him walk, then Watkins better bring him up to WI. That's just a huge wildcard to have on your WR's table.

    I don't have confidence that Fuller or Julio will be in their team's gameplan by playoffs.
    Last edited by NewsBruin; 04-15-2022, 12:49 PM.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Thanks for sharing this. I'm rooting for the guy to help manifest a Lombardi trophy.
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      • #33
        I think it is a reasonable signing for the cost. Watkins is no better than a WR3 at this point. We need depth, and he's capable still when healthy.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by King Friday View Post
          I think it is a reasonable signing for the cost. Watkins is no better than a WR3 at this point. We need depth, and he's capable still when healthy.
          I agree, but if healthy he still may be the most talented we currently have. Fill in a round one pick, a round 3 pick, a late round speed buy, and Winfree who showed flashes last year and that might be what we have to work with
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            True. But you only get one wife , we only have one head coach, and we only start one qb. We do start 2 wr
            And one of them was the #1 WR in the league last year. Which was the point I kept making then. Now....we need a lot of help at WR, I concur.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              If injury hasn't killed his speed great pickup for the money. Not as fast but way better hands than mvs.

              Anyone know how his route running is? If it's sharp then he is our temporary #1 wr imo.

              However I am very sceptical based on injury history
              MVS was superior to the current version of Sammy. He has been for a couple years. That doesn't make this a bad signing, its just a point. MVS at this juncture runs better routes, is faster, and is a better blocker.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by cheesner View Post
                Why not?

                Was hoping for Fuller, but I am pulling for Watkins to be the 2022 Campbell Award winner for guys who had early promise in their careers, hit some bad years, then came to the Packers and played great.
                Ah, I like it. We need a better name for the award though. We already have the Fuckdoggle for individual games. Ideas?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  I agree, but if healthy he still may be the most talented we currently have. Fill in a round one pick, a round 3 pick, a late round speed buy, and Winfree who showed flashes last year and that might be what we have to work with
                  With 28 of the QBs in the NFL that would be a real problem. With AR and a good run game that is enough.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    MVS was superior to the current version of Sammy. He has been for a couple years. That doesn't make this a bad signing, its just a point. MVS at this juncture runs better routes, is faster, and is a better blocker.
                    I had a really high opinion pf MVS, more than most people, but I tend to disagree with you here. Watkins should be a significantly better route runner and even though MVS didn't drop as many as early on, he still dropped more than he should have. Watkins should be better that way too. And he should be almost as good a deep threat. Probably give blocking to MVS too because he's a lot bigger, but I don't expect Watkins to be a liability there either.

                    I called it as soon as we signed Devondre Campbell that he would be good, and I'm calling it about Watkins too. If he's healthy, and I think he is, he should thrive with Rodgers and be a legitimate #1 WR. Whether we go for a primary deep threat (Watson or Olave) or more of a possession receiver (Burks), Watkins is a good complement for either type.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      I had a really high opinion pf MVS, more than most people, but I tend to disagree with you here. Watkins should be a significantly better route runner and even though MVS didn't drop as many as early on, he still dropped more than he should have. Watkins should be better that way too. And he should be almost as good a deep threat. Probably give blocking to MVS too because he's a lot bigger, but I don't expect Watkins to be a liability there either.

                      I called it as soon as we signed Devondre Campbell that he would be good, and I'm calling it about Watkins too. If he's healthy, and I think he is, he should thrive with Rodgers and be a legitimate #1 WR. Whether we go for a primary deep threat (Watson or Olave) or more of a possession receiver (Burks), Watkins is a good complement for either type.
                      Sorry, but MVS at this point is simply a much better player. He is better at every aspect of the game. He is faster, bigger and not batshit crazy. He has improved every year whereas sammy has declined. Sammy has combined 800 yards in 2 seasons since that article was written. If he found the magic, he isn't applying it correctly.
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                      • #41
                        Maybe, but I'm predicting it right now: Watkins has a better overall season in Green Bay than MVS has in K.C. I wouldn't even rule out Watkins coming close to as good in G.B. as Davante does in Oakland ...... oops Vegas.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                          MVS was superior to the current version of Sammy. He has been for a couple years. That doesn't make this a bad signing, its just a point. MVS at this juncture runs better routes, is faster, and is a better blocker.
                          Per pro football reference mvs career catch percentage = 49.3
                          Watkins career catch % = 58.5, 64.5 with mahomes as qb.
                          He is slower but if he still runs good routes he is better than mvs.
                          Y/t mvs =8.7
                          Y/t Watkins =8.5
                          Y/r mvs =17.5
                          Y/r Watkins 14.5

                          Obvious analysis, mvs is a bigger but less consistent deep threat. Watkins will more often move the chains.
                          I bet we see more jones and dillion tds this year.
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                          • #43
                            If Watkins is better than MVS, a LOT of NFL pro scouts and executives disagree as evidenced by the contracts they signed. Or maybe MVS' agent is just better?

                            Not saying Watkins won't have a good year, #12 could elevate his game. History suggests otherwise, however. He's a 1 year stopgap signing to help the youngsters and the team, but he's a WR3 at this point (and an oft-injured one at that) so there's only so much to expect from him.
                            Somewhere between 400 and 500 yards is about what I'm expecting.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                              If Watkins is better than MVS, a LOT of NFL pro scouts and executives disagree as evidenced by the contracts they signed. Or maybe MVS' agent is just better?

                              Not saying Watkins won't have a good year, #12 could elevate his game. History suggests otherwise, however. He's a 1 year stopgap signing to help the youngsters and the team, but he's a WR3 at this point (and an oft-injured one at that) so there's only so much to expect from him.
                              Somewhere between 400 and 500 yards is about what I'm expecting.
                              I think the injury issue is what makes Watkins cheaper, and that is a massive factor. My above (simple) analysis wasn't me saying Watkins was a better player. Just he has better hands and that mvs is a better deep threat. Uninjured I do prefer Watkins in the absence of adams as he has a better chance of holding the ball. Uninjured Watkins is a high chance of 1000 years with a good qb. No such thing as uninjured watkins though.
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                              • #45
                                On a tangent if sanders is cheap he might be a good pick up still.
                                Or Keenan cole, if cheap.
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