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2022 First Round Pick, #22, Quay Walker discussion thread.
3. QUAY WALKER, Georgia (6-3 1/2, 242, 4.52, 1-2): Played four years on the inside but wasn’t a starter until 2021 when he averaged just 40.7 snaps. “Rotational kind of guy,” one scout said. “Is he a great player? I wouldn’t go that far. If he was there in the second I’d say go ahead and do it. You’re not going to miss on the athlete or the height-weight-speed numbers. If you miss, it would be his instincts. He’s not reactive as an off-the-line player. But once he sees it he can absolutely fly.” Ran fast but his vertical jump (32 inches) and broad jump (10-2) were the poorest of the top 12 linebackers. “I think his instincts suck but the guy can run,” a second scout said. “In the 20’s, guys are going to take a shot on him. Not a green dot. Good kid.” Finished with 139 tackles (11 for loss), five sacks and no forced fumbles. “Physical taking on blocks,” said a third scout. “Needs to have a better blitz plan. Just kind of runs straight-ahead. Reacted better to routes in front of him in zone. Wasn’t sure how instinctive he is or what he’s seeing at times. Flashes a quick trigger but will take false steps or pause to read at times. Played on special teams but didn’t jump off the film. I don’t know if you’d want him as your Mike. He’s the third (best) of the three from Georgia.” Wonderlic of 9. “It’s hard to find those ones that are that big still and can run like that,” a fourth scout said. “He’ll strike you. He’ll be a Mike. He’ll be able to match guys athletically in coverage. Maybe not Year 1 (running the show) but you can get him caught up to speed where he can be functional. I don’t hear anything that says he can’t.” From Cordele, Ga. “I didn’t see much there,” said a fifth scout. “All those other (Georgia) guys go 100 miles an hour and he looks like he’s going about 60. Not a great athlete, not very physical, not very productive. He’s very similar to Lorenzo Carter who came out of there a few years ago. Something’s missing with him.”
Sorry.
I remember watching the national title game and Dean just lighting him up down inside the 10 yard line for something stupid, and all of a sudden he turned up the gas and played his ass off the rest of the game. So there is that for ya.
But, I'll be honest I was really caught off guard with this pick. I really liked the Gary pick when everyone else jumped off a bridge, but I just don't see a first round grade on this guy when you could have had him in the 2nd round or later, and if he was taken before the Packers drafted who cares? Draft tiers are about even with the top 5-6 linebackers.
Yeah. My take. It's not at all how GB usually "attacks" the ilb position. Would have liked their favorite edge there or Wyatt.
These McGinn writeups almost always make you feel like "how did this guy even get drafted." Scouts sound crusty when talking about these guys. Walker is not a good athlete? Yet, his 40yd, 10yd, 3 cone were all elite. Shuttle was solid. His RAS was 9.63. On the plus side, he can cover, he has range, good tackler and overall run defender, he sheds well. Just a really good all around LB with really good size and athleticism.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
These McGinn writeups almost always make you feel like "how did this guy even get drafted." Scouts sound crusty when talking about these guys. Walker is not a good athlete? Yet, his 40yd, 10yd, 3 cone were all elite. Shuttle was solid. His RAS was 9.63. On the plus side, he can cover, he has range, good tackler and overall run defender, he sheds well. Just a really good all around LB with really good size and athleticism.
It wasnt all bad. They said hed go in the 20s. Said its hard to find guys that big and that fast. Said he can shed. Said he can run once he triggers. Said he can hit. But one guy said something was missing. And said he takes false steps and hesitates.
It wasnt all bad. They said hed go in the 20s. Said its hard to find guys that big and that fast. Said he can shed. Said he can run once he triggers. Said he can hit. But one guy said something was missing. And said he takes false steps and hesitates.
His weaknesses still sound better than AJ Hawk or Blake Martinez.
Fact/stat: Fourth-year senior Started 17 of 52 games, including 15 in 2021 … Finished with 11 tackles for loss, five sacks, no forced fumbles and no interceptions.
What NFL scouts told me about him before the draft…
NFC scout: “I trust this kid. He played inside off the ball. He’s big but he moves liken a smaller guy. He’s got good range. He’ll strike you. He’ll be a mike. He’ll be able to match guys athletically in coverage. People didn’t think he’d run as well as he did. It’s hard to find those ones that are that big still and can run like that … Maybe not Year 1 (run the show) but you can get him caught up to speed where he can be functional. I don’t hear anything that says he can’t.”
AFC scout: “He might be more of an outside backer in a 3-4. He’s not super instinctive and reactive as an off-the-line player, but once he sees it he can absolutely fly. He’s a height-weight-speed prospect with questionable instincts. He was a rotational kind of guy at Georgia. Is he a great player? I wouldn’t go that far. If he was there in the second round I’d say go ahead and do it. You’re not going to miss on the athlete or the height-weight-speed numbers. If you miss it would be his (instincts). He can’t be the green dot.”
NFC scout: “I didn’t see much there. All those other guys (at Georgia) go 100 miles an hour. He looks like he’s going about 60. Not a great athlete. Not very physical. Not very productive. He moved around to different spots. They used him (to cover) but I don’t think he’s very good. He’s very similar to Lorenzo Carter (Giants) who came out of there a few years ago (2018). Something’s missing with him.”
AFC scout: “He probably wouldn’t wear the green dot.”
AFC scout: “Really like him. He plays in a rotation but he has the traits to be a good starting player.”
AFC scout: “Good size and athletic. Best on a straight line. Good tackler. Lacks instincts in the run and the pass. It’d be a concern if he’s on the field full-time.”
AFC scout: “Very quiet and keeps to himself. Not a bad kid but poor communicator at times and emotional. Can be hard to deal with outside of football. Off-ball linebacker not completely natural to him. Able to learn the defense. Not a leader. Instincts slow him down some. Is at his best when he can just chase and hit.”
NFC scout: “I think they (his instincts) suck. But the guy can run. He’s going in the first round. In the 20’s, guys are going to take a shot on him. He’s a good kid. No instincts. No way (he can wear green dot).”
AFC scout: “Tested out well. He was more athlete than player. He was a defensive end out of high school. Big, athletic and fast. Has twitch and speed. Very good lateral pursuit speed. He’s physical taking on blocks. Needs to have a better blitz plan. He just kind of runs straight ahead. Reacted better to routes in front of him than in zone. I wasn’t sure how instinctive he is or what he’s seeing at times. Flashes a quick trigger but will take false steps or pause to read at times. Played on special teams but didn’t jump off the film. Second or third round. Too big and fast not to go on Day 2. He’s athletic and fast enough to play will. I don’t know if you’d want to have him as your mike. He’s the third of three (linebackers) from Georgia. He is an athlete.”
AFC scout: “Like him. He plays the run. Steps up and fills. He took people on more than (Nakobe) Dean whereas Dean was the guy out in space.”
AFC scout: “He’s green. Only started for one year. Can’t run the defense. He can play on all three downs. He’s big and tall and can run. He’s better than (Patrick) Queen.”
AFC scout: “He can run. Strong, good range. Solid vs. the run and the pass. Not a great blitzer. Could probably play all three spots. Second round.”
The good news is he won't be expected to run the defense for a while. Packers initially will need to use him in situations and alignments where he can use his athleticism.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
The good news is he won't be expected to run the defense for a while. Packers initially will need to use him in situations and alignments where he can use his athleticism.
Yep. Hes in a good position to suite his skillset.
our Defense would be unstoppable with Jim Leonard as our DC )
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
Quay Walker is to linebackers as Josh Jones is to safeties. In other words, a total bust.
And the worst part, theyre going to force this nim rod on the field and its going to turn into the dysfunction that we had when they forced Jones on the field. Players were outwardly bitching that guys who dont belong on the field were playing.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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