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2022 Second Round Pick, #34, Christian Watson Discussion Thread
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I'm not worried about this kid at lesast being a very solid starter, possibly star.
GB prides itself on its drafting of number one receivers. They haven't missed on a round one or two in a very long time.
He will be able to contribute right away on special teams, sweeps, and screens. He seems very determined, hard working, and is also smart. A good kid too: He checks every box as a "Packer" receiver.
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I don't think so. The Packers moved all-in on a championship chase over the next 2-3 years. Having an extra pick is meaningless if we don't have capable WRs. They flew off the board the last 2 days. Waiting wasn't an option. Even if the kid doesn't pan out, it wasn't a mistake by Gute to go after him. It was a major need for the team, and it would've been risky to stay in the latter part of the 2nd and wait.Originally posted by Vincenzo View PostWe lost a pick moving up 19 spots.
“ "Green Bay opened the day with two second round selections – the No. 53 and No. 59 picks. The Packers traded both to the Minnesota Vikings for the right to take Watson at No. 34.
No wonder the Vikings took the trade. If Watson doesn’t pan out, Gute is gonna look like a dope.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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WHat I mean:Originally posted by King Friday View PostI don't think so. The Packers moved all-in on a championship chase over the next 2-3 years. Having an extra pick is meaningless if we don't have capable WRs. They flew off the board the last 2 days. Waiting wasn't an option. Even if the kid doesn't pan out, it wasn't a mistake by Gute to go after him. It was a major need for the team, and it would've been risky to stay in the latter part of the 2nd and wait.
They should have gone Wyatt, then Watkins. It's clear this draft was ALL IN now. Not sure I llke it.
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Just an idle thought:
In 2009 a lot of people initially thought Packers overpaid to move up and draft Clay Matthews. I felt they did it because if they didn't the Patriots would take Matthews for themselves.
Same thing here. Packers paid a lot to move up. Maybe in part they did it because if not Vikings might take Watson and they'd be trying to cover Watson and Justin Jefferson for the next 8-10 years.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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He was voted best receiver by the DBs at the Senior Bowl: could not be covered and got open. He still seems to fight the ball at times, but has adequate hands.
He has the shiftiness of a sub 6.0' receiver.
He tracks the ball well (unlike MVS), and can blow the top off.
Dedicated, smart, "Packer" type receiver. My top pick for LaFleur's system. (Again, I'm very concerned that Burks won't get open in the NFL like K'Neal Harry. Watson will get open.)
He can contribute right away: blocking, screens, sweeps, deep balls.
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Given the RAS scores of Walker, Wyatt and Watson, I wonder if Packers even had a 1st round grade on Burks.Originally posted by Jaire View PostHe was voted best receiver by the DBs at the Senior Bowl: could not be covered and got open. He still seems to fight the ball at times, but has adequate hands.
He has the shiftiness of a sub 6.0' receiver.
He tracks the ball well (unlike MVS), and can blow the top off.
Dedicated, smart, "Packer" type receiver. My top pick for LaFleur's system. (Again, I'm very concerned that Burks won't get open in the NFL like K'Neal Harry. Watson will get open.)
He can contribute right away: blocking, screens, sweeps, deep balls.
I also wonder if Packers would have taken Watson at 28 if Wyatt had not been available.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I think Chris Simms is the best draft analyst. He misses occasionally -- who doesn't? But given Watson's high character, I don't see the downside. Simms had Watson as his number two receiver. Packers take developmental receivers, not finished products (so too with most high picks). It also reminds me that one of the coaches is his division said that Watson was the best receiver in the FCS since Randy Moss.
I am very happy with this pick and the Wyatt pick.
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If the Sr bowl dbs think he was the best that says something. Metal sharpens metal and if he challenges them he must be at least decent. No he will.habe stokes pushing him on speed and jaire for technique. I think we got a good wr here. Hate giving up the 2 2nds but really could not wait based on who was gone already. I thought someone would get him in 1st actually.Originally posted by Jaire View PostHe was voted best receiver by the DBs at the Senior Bowl: could not be covered and got open. He still seems to fight the ball at times, but has adequate hands.
He has the shiftiness of a sub 6.0' receiver.
He tracks the ball well (unlike MVS), and can blow the top off.
Dedicated, smart, "Packer" type receiver. My top pick for LaFleur's system. (Again, I'm very concerned that Burks won't get open in the NFL like K'Neal Harry. Watson will get open.)
He can contribute right away: blocking, screens, sweeps, deep balls.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Maybe proof read your posts before you post. “Sr bowl DBs think he was the best that says something.”Originally posted by Upnorth View PostIf the Sr bowl dbs think he was the best that says something. Metal sharpens metal and if he challenges them he must be at least decent. No he will.habe stokes pushing him on speed and jaire for technique. I think we got a good wr here. Hate giving up the 2 2nds but really could not wait based on who was gone already. I thought someone would get him in 1st actually.
If you’re a Sr Bowl DB, there has got to be something wrong with you. I mean, you don’t see Sauce and Stingray playing in Sr bowls, do you? Nope. The best corners enter the draft prior to their senior year of eligibility.
A bunch of JAG DBs saying Watson is the best they’ve ever covered ain’t saying much, hombre. I mean, I once shut down Darren Charles. Charles ain’t in any shape, form, matter or antimatter the best WR ever conceived in cold, dark and dull Wisconsin. That honor belongs to Bill Schroeder.
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So regardless of the talent these db have they also competed against pierce and dotson, who are also highly regarded prospects.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostMaybe proof read your posts before you post. “Sr bowl DBs think he was the best that says something.”
If you’re a Sr Bowl DB, there has got to be something wrong with you. I mean, you don’t see Sauce and Stingray playing in Sr bowls, do you? Nope. The best corners enter the draft prior to their senior year of eligibility.
A bunch of JAG DBs saying Watson is the best they’ve ever covered ain’t saying much, hombre. I mean, I once shut down Darren Charles. Charles ain’t in any shape, form, matter or antimatter the best WR ever conceived in cold, dark and dull Wisconsin. That honor belongs to Bill Schroeder.
They said watson was the best. That says something and it isn't negative.
I'm not saying watson = moss from this. I'm saying he was recognized by a group of players whose job is to shut down wr that he is the best there.
Maybe understand what is being said before commenting.
Dude is an athletic freak. He has potenial. He is 1 of 3 wr I thought might be an ok #1if he develops. The others were injured, and I down grade watson already due to the competition he faced. That is why I repeatedly said there was no sure #1 wr, only a bunch of #2.
I am amused that a player who I think is comparable to your boy dk is garbage in your eyes. I doubt he will be as good but he is the best wr athlete since dk imo.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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DK and Watson are very different. DK outweighs Watson by 20 pounds. He is all about straight speed and power. Watson is almost as fast, but is also a much more flexible athlete.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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True, but athletic freaks both of them. I didn't see the comparison until today and I have run I to twice so far. Maybe it is some random draft guys hyping the pick, but I'm hoping it's accurate.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostDK and Watson are very different. DK outweighs Watson by 20 pounds. He is all about straight speed and power. Watson is almost as fast, but is also a much more flexible athlete.
If he is 75% Metcalf still a good pick imoAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Good job man, I with you on all this, especially about Wyatt and Watson - they have me all pumped this weekend!Originally posted by Jaire View PostI think Chris Simms is the best draft analyst. He misses occasionally -- who doesn't? But given Watson's high character, I don't see the downside. Simms had Watson as his number two receiver. Packers take developmental receivers, not finished products (so too with most high picks). It also reminds me that one of the coaches is his division said that Watson was the best receiver in the FCS since Randy Moss.
I am very happy with this pick and the Wyatt pick.
https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/...R8rBdruCUAyAwA
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No. Just the best at the senior bowl. Not nothing, not GOAT.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostA bunch of JAG DBs saying Watson is the best they’ve ever covered ain’t saying much, hombre. I mean, I once shut down Darren Charles. Charles ain’t in any shape, form, matter or antimatter the best WR ever conceived in cold, dark and dull Wisconsin. That honor belongs to Bill Schroeder.
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