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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    MVS has clocked over 22MPH in the NFL. So he did show slightly faster top speed at his fastest. Watson is getting over 20MPH on 20% of his touches. He gets to speed much faster and not always on a straight line, and it’s translating to being faster on the field.

    And there’s a chance that Watson is just faster than that 4.38 too, like his dad said. And has better get off and faster deep speed.

    He plays very fast. It shows up in the field of play.
    Here's the thing. If you run even a 4.4, once you have a step on the D it takes even a 4.3 guy 20 yards to catch you. So If Watson is fast enough in the 10 to GET that step he is almost impossible to run down.

    I have always mocked people who "worship at the altar of the 40". The 10 yard split is easily the most important stat in football. For skill positions the 3 cone and short shuttle are also just as important. For "bigs" the explosion drills matter more. Who wins coming out of their stance wins the down.
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    • Watson's speed is what everyone is talking about, which is understanable. But his TD reception was just as impressive. 4th and 4 and he was initially covered, but manages to find an open spot in the end zone where Rodgers could get the ball to him. Something you don't see from rookies a lot. https://twitter.com/i/status/1599826855988977665
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • New Christian Watson Apology Form

        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
          Thanks, Joe.

          Welp.

          This is the burner specimen who can take the top off of defenses that I wanted.
          Ahem.

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          • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            Here's the thing. If you run even a 4.4, once you have a step on the D it takes even a 4.3 guy 20 yards to catch you. So If Watson is fast enough in the 10 to GET that step he is almost impossible to run down.

            I have always mocked people who "worship at the altar of the 40". The 10 yard split is easily the most important stat in football. For skill positions the 3 cone and short shuttle are also just as important. For "bigs" the explosion drills matter more. Who wins coming out of their stance wins the down.
            I've heard most scouts now actually look at the flying 20 more than the full 40 to get a sense of a player's speed.
            I still think the 10 yd is important though - to me it shows burst and also how fast you can run up on a CB's toes and possibly get them off their leverage. Explosion drills are good for burst/acceleration as well. Agree on the agility drills, I think they matter for separating and route running and are especially important for slot receivers.

            Watson's combine numbers were pretty crazy, especially given his size. It's tough to have good 10yd split and agility numbers at his size.

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Jacob Morley
              @JacobMorley
              Since week 9

              Christian Watson's passer rating when targeted:

              - 142.2
              - 1st in the NFL.

              (Min 25 targets)
              This needs to be his theme song:

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              • Just when I didn’t give a fuck about the season Watson goes and makes me want to see every game again. He has been electric and just like several have said nothing has been close since rookie moss. The Love teaser half has me hopeful for the next couple of years.

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                • Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                  Just when I didn’t give a fuck about the season Watson goes and makes me want to see every game again. He has been electric and just like several have said nothing has been close since rookie moss. The Love teaser half has me hopeful for the next couple of years.
                  So, you don't want Watson's recent success to tempt Rodgers to return?

                  P.S. Can you give me permissions to edit my profile and whatnot?

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                  • This is the vid that got me all fired up about his ability.

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                    • I would love to see more slants and crosses from Watson in this offense
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                      • Absolutely, plus one to that.
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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          New Christian Watson Apology Form

                          Watson won’t even win OROY, so the HOF talk is premature. If a WR is gonna win OROY, it’s gonna be Chris Olave. Olave has been putting up nice numbers, numbers that are a combination of talent and availability - unlike the soft and fragile guy Green Bay drafted in the 2nd round.

                          I ain’t seen this big of a hard-on for a rookie since the Claymaker, the cocky kid from Southern Cal whom I jotted down on my ingenious “My Mastery Mockery of a Draft.” Like Watson, Claymaker missed most of his rookie training camp with injury. Claymaker didn’t start showing up til the infamous “Thanks Ted” game where, instead of tackling Adrian Peterson, the Claymaker opted to take away the rock - which he successfully did for 6.

                          Uncool Pack fans have a thing for soft and fragile players.

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                          • And like when a butterfly flaps its wings and causes chaos, C-Wat’s abominable drop on the very first play from scrimmage pretty much caused this chaotic season. Then the guy went all soft and fragile and didn’t show up again til the season has already been fucked.

                            Charles Barkley calls Watson’s pretty stats as of late “garbage stats.”

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                            • That being said, I am starting to like this guy on Madden. Speed should be higher than 94.

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                              • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                                Uncool Pack fans have a thing for soft and fragile players.
                                This is a strawman argument. Nobody is high on him because he was hurt. If he did the same thing without any injuries people would be even more excited.

                                Turn this around and look at it the other way. If you were to write off every player that was injured early in their career, I bet you'd miss a lot of really great players

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