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They really seem to like Royce Newman but he struggled last year as a rook, and is struggling a bit at RT now. I wonder if he's just straight-up a guard, and even at that, how good he really is. If Jenkins really is ready in three or four weeks, I wonder if we'll see him and Runyan at the guard spots and Tom at RT.
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Newman struggled at the start but improved as the year progressed, but all at guard. That may be his pro position. Hopefully between Tom and Jenkins we have a RT to start the season. Hanson and Newman can battle for RG if Jenkins is on the shelf.Comment
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Ha ha ha! WTF Mailman Ret.C.H.U.D.Comment
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I am getting curiouser and curiouser about the third round pick, Sean Rhyan. He was a tackle, I think, but it looks like he's going to be a guard in the NFL. So they spent a third-round pick on a guard - which you could say they spent a high pick on Jenkins, but Jenkins stepped in from day one and played well, AND he clearly can also play tackle. Maybe Rhyan will be good, but the guy they took a round later seems much more promising.Originally posted by smuggler View Post"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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We'll see if I was right or they were right.Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Good call, Harv. Zach Tom looks like he’s the guy. Rasheed Walker has a chance too. The future at tackle could be bright.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostWe'll see if I was right or they were right.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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He’s 300 fairly lean pounds. He could pack on a belly and be 315, but he is a legit 300. The undersized thing doesn’t seem to be slowing him down at all.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Somewhere along the line I said that this was my favorite draft in a long time. I absolutely loved all 3 OL where we got them. Agree with wondering wth happened to Rhyan, although at the time I predicted Tom was much more likely to be a starting G. As it turns out, he is the better OT as well.
The only pick I feel we could have done better with was the first one. But I wanted Wyatt there, so it worked out.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Zach Tom needs time in the weight room to get a better anchor and get stronger in general, but he is a good technician, is very smart, and has tackle athleticism -- dude has feet you can't teach. I don't think he has the anchor to hold up at guard against 320 pound grown men bull rushing him. Not yet anyway, and I'd hate to see him pack on 20 pounds of bad weight to try. I think that would diminish his athletic gifts.
I'm starting to wonder if Bahktiari - Runyan - Myers - Jenkins - Tom wouldn't be the best lineup. Yes, you eventually pay Jenkins like a tackle and maybe move him after Bahktiari moves on, but I wonder if Jenkins-Tom is better than Newman-Jenkins on the right side?Comment
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He wouldn't need weight to play G, that is done with leverage. Its at OT, when a guy bull rushes you, even a smaller guy, that you need that anchor. He has shown an ability to drop his hips and get under the bull rush so far. Guy is just a natural. I still think his best position is G, sort of in the Mike Wahle mold. He moves so well, and his punch is so smooth. He just does everything so well. I have watched him use his arms to guide guys trying to go inside and outside. I have seen him drop his hips vs. bull rushers. He even uses the mythical pad level in the run game. He is good right now, but if he could pack another 15 pounds of muscle on....look out.Originally posted by run pMc View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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How 'bout that Sean Rhyan!!
What the hell. Your fourth round pick steps in and plays like a polished pro from the get-go, and your third-round pick can't even figure out how to button up his pants yet. Weird how scouting works. Did they draft Rhyan based strictly on athleticisim?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I wonder with Ryhan if it's a case of things happening faster off the snap in a phone booth at G than at T. Would be nice to have him push Hanson and Newman, but he'll be ok.Originally posted by Fritz View PostComment
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I think all the OL and DL spots require leverage, and he can play with that. What I mean is he doesn't have the lower center of mass -- sometimes he looks like a big LB or a TE more than an OL -- that I think you need to fight on the inside. Defensive tackles are often the strongest and heaviest players on the football field. You need strength and technique to keep defensive tackles away from the quarterback -- I don't think Tom has both yet. I think we are mostly in agreement, especially in what 10-15 pounds of good muscle could do for him.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostComment
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Your post is ridiculous. NFL jerseys use string, not buttons. Be better Fritz.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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