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2022 Seventh Round Pick, #249, OT Rasheed Walker
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MLF said they're going to give him a shot at Tackle. Most people see him as a Guard. Of Course, most people saw Tauscher and Bakhtiari as a Guard too.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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He slipped because his tape wasn’t good. He’s built like an NFL OT though.
I used to trust the overall rankings provided by McGinn (haven’t seen them in years), but pretty much ignored the scouts’ quotes. They were often contradictory and generally negative.
Can you find these quotes from previous years?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Hes been bouncing around. I cant find last years (the athletic) stuff. It disappeared. I paid for a couple months each year when he was on his own. I paid this year for Tyler Dunne.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostHe slipped because his tape wasn’t good. He’s built like an NFL OT though.
I used to trust the overall rankings provided by McGinn (haven’t seen them in years), but pretty much ignored the scouts’ quotes. They were often contradictory and generally negative.
Can you find these quotes from previous years?
He wins a bunch of years on the sports writers top 100 competition. He obviously has good sources.
Hes my favorite draft source.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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His rankings are the best, but I’d like to see his quotes for scouts in regards to people like Jaire, Rashan, Davante and conversely Josh Jackson and others who stunk. Like I said, the scout’s quotes were often contradictory and genuinely negative."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Agree on the scout quotes. They are interesting, but often contradictory or negative, and it's kind of confusing other than to point out that there rarely are consensus great prospects outside the top 10.
Also - McGinn is kind of a Debbie Downer himself, so maybe some of the quotes he uses reflect that, or maybe some of his sources shouldn't have jobs... I can recall some pretty bad ones from his draft reviews.
My personal favorite was the scout who loved Jamal Reynolds and said his leverage and bend were great and he got so low "he could walk under a duck". We know how that turned out.
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I remember early in training camp Reynolds' rookie year they had him going up against Chad Clifton. Man, I think they had to fill out a missing persons report.Originally posted by run pMc View PostAgree on the scout quotes. They are interesting, but often contradictory or negative, and it's kind of confusing other than to point out that there rarely are consensus great prospects outside the top 10.
Also - McGinn is kind of a Debbie Downer himself, so maybe some of the quotes he uses reflect that, or maybe some of his sources shouldn't have jobs... I can recall some pretty bad ones from his draft reviews.
My personal favorite was the scout who loved Jamal Reynolds and said his leverage and bend were great and he got so low "he could walk under a duck". We know how that turned out.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Scouts on Eric Stokes, per Harvey's request
What scouts said about Stokes
Here’s what NFL personnel told me before the draft about cornerback Eric Stokes.
NFC scout: “He’s got great recovery skills. He’s got a knack for the interception. He just stands out. He started out as a running back and track guy. Then he quit the track team to focus on football. He’s got good toughness. He’s a physical tackler. He’s an exceptional special-teamer. There’s high upside with this guy. Late-first or early-second round.”
AFC scout: “He has the same grade as (fellow Georgia CB Tyson) Campbell. Stokes is skinnier than Campbell, but he is really instinctive and is a click faster. He’s the fastest guy of the (cornerback) group.”
NFC scout: “He can’t catch, but he can run fast. He’s big and athletic. He goes between 30 and 45.”
NFC scout: “I like him, but he has worse ball skills than Campbell. Watch his pro day. He has more interceptions than Campbell, so the ball might find him, but he’ll never be a natural at it. … If he gets balls where he can track it and doesn’t have to get his eyes to it late, he’ll catch those. If he has to get his eyes to it late, he’ll have problems with those. Is he first-round worthy? Probably late, or early in the second.”
AFC scout: “I don’t like him as much as some people. I didn’t even see second round.”
NFC scout: “He was up and down in his career. He was a little bit better this year. His big issue is transition quickness, when he’s in off coverage, getting out of his backpedal, planting and driving back toward the receiver for the ball. Another way to say it is matching routes. His ability to match routes when he’s in zone was off. His deep-ball skills were really inconsistent.”
AFC scout: “He’s Stanford Routt. He’s stiff. He’s a track guy playing football. Now, he can play press. He has height and speed. Sprinters are straight-line guys. Fourth or fifth round.”
NFC scout: “(I) like him. I’d take him over (Caleb) Farley. He’s big, too, and he’s smooth. He’s got excellent feel and body control. Just a natural at what he does. Press stuff is easy for him. When he’s off, he’s got instant change of direction. His length kind of saves him.”
AFC scout: “He needs to improve his ball skills. The height/weight/speed (combo) is going to be too hard to pass up.”
NFC scout: “I’d like to take a shot on him because he can really fly.”
AFC scout: “He’s a starter. He just doesn’t take the ball away the way other guys do.”
AFC scout: “He’s twitched up and he’s fast. Little bit of a track body. I like him. The speed might push him over because at that position, people will gamble.”
NFC scout: “He ran 4.2 something. Somebody might take him in the first. (Georgia coach) Kirby Smart said he is a little rough around the edges, but he is physical and he’s fast.”
NFC scout: “He can’t catch, but he can run.”
AFC scout: “He’s not the total package, but he has the physical qualities.”Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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2. RASHAN GARY, Michigan (6-4 1/2, 276, 4.63, 1): Third-year junior. “He plays along the line on his feet, he’s explosive, he’s got twitch, he’s got a great get-off and lean,” said one scout. “His skill level is in the top 5 to 10%. His production is in the top 40%. We see him as a 5-technique but he could be a 3-technique. With that speed he can play on the right side.” Two-year starter in a multiple scheme, usually on the left side. “His whole life he has been the biggest, fastest person,” a second scout said. “With that you don’t have to strain and do the extras. I think that’s what happened to him. Everything was just so easy for him that he hasn’t incorporated that internal high motor to match his physical gifts. The production is not there … You see him anchor and toss people. You see him bull rush and stab guys. Then you don’t see it. He and Ed Oliver have a chance to bust. He’s just always been so much better than everyone else that he never had to try to kick your ***.” Led the position in the 40-yard dash, vertical jump (38 inches) and broad jump (10-0). His Wonderlic of 9 was the lowest among the top 25 D-linemen. “I’m not sold that Rashan Gary loves football,” a third scout said. “His football character is not very good. His interview wasn’t good. He thinks he’s this great worker. He has plays that he could have made but he didn’t finish or pursue.” From Plainfield, N.J. “I wish I had him,” said a fourth scout. “When he’s visible, he’s visible.”Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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