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  • Is the OL better?

    Is Bakhtiari back or is his knee shot?
    Will Jenkins make it back around mid season and will he be the same player?
    Will Newman make a big second year jump?
    Will Meyers make a big second year jump?
    How good is Sean Rhyan?
    How good is Zach Tom?


    Runyan and Nijman are the only two without major question marks. Runyan is a solid player and Nijman is an average player. So we have a couple OK pieces.

    This could be a disaster if things dont fall the way we hope.

    Or it could be a real strength if everything falls into place the way we hope.

    Or it could fall somewhere in between.

    It will be interesting to watch it play out.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

  • #2
    Lets say about half the things go our way.

    Bakh is done for but Jenkins makes it back to 100%
    Meyers takes a big jump but Newman doesnt.
    Rhyan is a legit player but Tom is too light


    The beginning of our year would be

    Nijman (average)
    Runyan (decent)
    Meyers (taking a big jump forward)
    Newman (being below average)
    Rhyan (a rookie)

    And Jenkins would replace Rhyan half way through. Possibly Rhyan could take over for the struggling Newman.

    This is a legit possibility with all the question marks we have and about half of them going our way. If something like this happened and our receivers being so mediocre, we might struggle mightily on offense.
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    • #3
      hahahahahahahaha Yeah, the O Line probably will be better ....... as if it makes a difference. Turner, Patrick, and Kelley on the minus side, Rhyan, Tom, and R. Walker on the plus side, that's kind of a wash. Bakhtiari maybe back to where he was before the injury? Whoop-di-doo hahahaha. Jenkins maybe suffering some lingering effect of his injury even when he does come back? minus. Myers coming back? big plus. Runyan and Newman and Nijman getting better? plus, I guess.
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      • #4
        I think we will sign a cheap veteran before the season starts, and yes I think all things considered we will have a better O-line.
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        • #5
          if bak comes back yes. If Jenkins comes back yes. If both come back hell yes!!!!!

          If our oline is first 15 weeks of 2020 good then I bet rodgers is MVP even after losing 17. Getting bak and Jenkins back is a huge step towards that.
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          • #6
            I don't see how it wouldn't be better, when last year we didn't have Bakhtiari or Jenkins.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
              I don't see how it wouldn't be better, when last year we didn't have Bakhtiari or Jenkins.
              If those guys make it back, its better. Plus the gains of Meyers and Newman IF they happen. It has potential to be a nice improvement.
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              • #8
                Is there a reason we think Bach might not be back ? Just curious if there is news I'm unaware of
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                • #9
                  I think he'll be bahk and just fine. He looked ok in his snaps vs. DET, he just rushed bahk too soon. Having an offseason to recover will help. Every body recovers differently, and I think older and bigger players might take a little longer to recover. I would expect him to be ready to go for training camp.

                  The OL will be younger, and I would expect better. The big question is, who will be the starting RT for Week 1?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    I think he'll be bahk and just fine. He looked ok in his snaps vs. DET, he just rushed bahk too soon. Having an offseason to recover will help. Every body recovers differently, and I think older and bigger players might take a little longer to recover. I would expect him to be ready to go for training camp.

                    The OL will be younger, and I would expect better. The big question is, who will be the starting RT for Week 1?
                    Probably Nijman. But at least they have all offseason to get him settled in. We are thin at tackle until Jenkins hopefully comes back. One injury and were looking at a rookie.
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                    • #11
                      I think this line is much improved with the draft additions. The coaching staff knows how to coach up young talent, and I think they just got a couple very good young players.
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                      • #12
                        It all hinges on Bak being ready day 1 and Jenkins coming back in time to acclimate and be 100% for playoffs.

                        An OLine of Bak, Tom, Meyers, Runyan, Jenkins would be really good. I guess conventional wisdom is that Rhyse should be starting over Tom due to draft stock, but I just don't see it playing out that way. Backups of Nijman, Rhyse, Newman and whoever would be pretty good.
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                        • #13
                          I'm very happy with Gute's rebuilding this Oline over the last four years.

                          This year: when Bakh and Jenkins are back, of course it's better.

                          Long term: no doubt ........ TT had really neglected the line for several years. A+ for Gute rebuilding this team while keeping it a contender at the same time (still an F on the Jordan Love pick). And it was the Oline that lost us the playoffs the last two years, esp in 2020: of course, it was injuries mainly last year (Tonyan, MVS, Dillon didn't help either).

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                          • #14
                            2 years in a row, Packers have gone into the playoffs injury depleted at Tackle. I'll feel good about this season when it appears Bakhtiari can play without his knee filling up with fluid again. Until then, it's a question mark. Not hopeless, but a question mark.
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                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
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                            • #15
                              I think they are (mostly) telling the truth when they say "best 5 guys" with how they cross train them. Rhyan or Tom will get a look at T and even if they aren't a prototypical RT if they get the job done they might stick. Bahktiari was considered likely to need to move to C by many scouts, and he's been LT since his rookie season. Mark Tauscher made it at RT with t-rex arms and a doughy body. If you have good enough feet and technique you might be able to squeeze by. Gute has drafted a LOT of OL the last few years -- he's really upgraded the talent and competition there. With how injuries have hit, that's been a good thing. Most teams don't have anyone who can play backup tackle competently, GB rolled out several players last year.

                              Sure would be nice to have a couple of 6-6 dancing bears on either bookend though.

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