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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    Is there a reason we think Bach might not be back ? Just curious if there is news I'm unaware of
    Because he missed every timeline set for him last year....that and the enduring memory of Derick Sherrod.

    Edit: My apologies if I caused anyone to fall into fits of depression by mentioning Sherrod.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Is there a reason we think Bach might not be back ? Just curious if there is news I'm unaware of
      Every time he pushed it it started swelling. That could be a sign his knee is done.
      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

      George Orwell

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      • #18
        Were due for a lucky health year. If everything falls into place, weve got a kick ass OL.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #19
          Don't know about Bakhtiari's knee, but he's in top shape otherwise.
          https://twitter.com/i/status/1525269627038752768
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • #20
            The best thing the Packers had going was strength for interior runs, and with Myers back healthy, they should have that again - Runyan and Newman being not quite as good as when Jenkins was playing Guard, but good enough. I really hope (and think) that they won't mess that up and play Tom at Guard.

            Hopefully the Bakhtiari fans will get their chance to crow about his greatness again. If not, the team will be fine anyway. I wish when Jenkins comes back they would reinstall him at Left Guard and leave Nijman at Tackle, probably with Runyan at RG and Newman the top back up. If it turns out that they do put Jenkins at RT, though, I really hope they leave Runyan and Newman at the Guards.
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            • #21
              They should be better, but there are still tons of questions. If Bakhtiari is back, they can probably put Nijman at RT until Jenkins is ready. But if neither Bakh or Jenkins are back at the start of the season, then Nijman probably has to start at LT. In that scenario, RT is a huge question mark. Van Lanen, Rhyan, Tom and maybe even Newman would get a look at RT.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Yeah, we should get back to some real content hahahaha.

                As ya'all may know, I downplay the importance of the O Line in the Aaron Rodgers era. However, it is important in the run game, and if Rodgers ever gets any less mobile or maybe with his go-to WR gone, the line might be more of a factor - slightly. I also have always thought Bakhtiari and his importance are overrated. I'll be a lot happier to get Jenkins back than him.

                All that being said, I think the Packers are literally loaded with depth - moderately good if not great O Linemen. Joe, I didn't see one name I'm expecting a lot from: Jon Runyan. I was impressed by him and to a lesser extent Van Lanen in, of all places, the softball game. Runyan looked quick and agile - basically like a dancing bear. That should translate to O Line play too. Interior blocking was the Packers' strong point last season, and getting Josh Meyers back is only gonna accentuate that. I think Rhyan is gonna be a player too. Tom, who I have criticized, seems agile and quick. I'd be just about as comfortable with Nijman or somebody else at LT as with Bakhtiari. Newman too, seems like more than an adequate replacement for Billy Turner.

                Regardless, the Packers will be fine in the O Line (no rhyme intended) - even better than last season, with or without Bakhtiari.
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                • #23
                  Itll be interesting to watch it play out. I think Bakh is gonna be back. Lafleur said he expects him ready for TC. He added that they expected him back last year and were disappointed.

                  And then we have Meyers back in his second year. That could be a big jump.

                  Runyan is decent and still could get better.

                  Newman is likely to be a lot better.

                  Nijman would be our worst case RT unless someone beats him out.

                  And then we have Rhyan, Tom, Hanson, VanLanen and others fighting to beat out the guys we have. Plus Jenkins coming back mid season.

                  We have a good shot at a strong OL. Rhyan, in particular, seems like a really high quality prospect. And Tom is a little undersized but could develop into a player too.


                  Worst case is Bakh and Jenkins dont make
                  It back. Then were thin at tackle. But i do expect both back this year and the OL to be really strong.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    Itll be interesting to watch it play out. I think Bakh is gonna be back. Lafleur said he expects him ready for TC. He added that they expected him back last year and were disappointed.

                    And then we have Meyers back in his second year. That could be a big jump.

                    Runyan is decent and still could get better.

                    Newman is likely to be a lot better.

                    Nijman would be our worst case RT unless someone beats him out.

                    And then we have Rhyan, Tom, Hanson, VanLanen and others fighting to beat out the guys we have. Plus Jenkins coming back mid season.

                    We have a good shot at a strong OL. Rhyan, in particular, seems like a really high quality prospect. And Tom is a little undersized but could develop into a player too.


                    Worst case is Bakh and Jenkins dont make
                    It back. Then were thin at tackle. But i do expect both back this year and the OL to be really strong.
                    I think Rhyan may be the best Oline prospect Green Bay has drafted since Jenkins, and Sitton. I really think he has a starting job once the pads go on.
                    Been there done that!

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                    • #25
                      Starting OL with Bakhtiari but not Jenkins: Bakhtiari/Runyan/Myers/Newman/Nijman

                      Starting OL without either Bakhtiari or Jenkins: Nijman/Runyan/Myers/Rhyan/Newman

                      Starting OL with both Bakhtiari and Jenkins: Bakhriari/Runyan/Myers/Newman/Jenkins

                      Rhyan could very well end up a starter in each scenario.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Is this A. what you want? B. what you predict? C. somebody else's predictions?

                        It seems pretty accurate IMO. If it was up to me, which obviously it ain't, I'd keep Jenkins at Guard when he returns, and put either Newman or Rhyan or Nijman at RT, because I consider the interior positions more important than Tackle.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          Is this A. what you want? B. what you predict? C. somebody else's predictions?

                          It seems pretty accurate IMO. If it was up to me, which obviously it ain't, I'd keep Jenkins at Guard when he returns, and put either Newman or Rhyan or Nijman at RT, because I consider the interior positions more important than Tackle.
                          Just my uninformed prediction.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #28
                            It all depends of Bakh. If he's back, the dominoes will all fall into place. If he's not, then it's a patchwork job again.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              It all depends of Bakh. If he's back, the dominoes will all fall into place. If he's not, then it's a patchwork job again.
                              Its quite a bit different with Bakh
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by privatepacker View Post
                                I think Rhyan may be the best Oline prospect Green Bay has drafted since Jenkins, and Sitton. I really think he has a starting job once the pads go on.
                                He reminds me of Sitton a lot. But I disagree on his upside. He doesn't move like Jenkins. He doesn't have footwork or technique like Tom has. If the job opening is RT then he likely gets a legit shot to start, but if its RG then I think Tom takes it. Tom just isn't big enough to play T in the NFL (yet). I think the packers got exteme value with all 3 OL they drafted. Walker looks the part as well and was a steal in the 6th.

                                I have a concern for those who think Nijman can play RT. As founder of the Yosh fanclub I am remiss to point out his weaknesses, but he was extremely raw when he came to GB and all his work has been on the left side. Some guys can move back and forth and some can't. I'm not convinced a guy who has worked so hard to become a legit LT, but hasn't been bouncing around the OL his whole life can just swap sides.
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