Gute as GM after four drafts

[Upnorth]

Holmgren made it to an Owl with Hasselbeck. Do you have a way to explain that away also?

Edit: And Favre was never the same QB after he stopped playing with Holmgren.

The best oline possibly ever. How many times did Alexander have 5 yards before contact? I think he got more tired from distance than contact. The entire ol should have been in the pro bowl and might as well have been the all pro line up.
Still as coach you need to know how to use them.

[run pMc]

The best oline possibly ever. How many times did Alexander have 5 yards before contact? I think he got more tired from distance than contact. The entire ol should have been in the pro bowl and might as well have been the all pro line up.
Still as coach you need to know how to use them.

OL doesn't matter, it's all the QB.</sarcasm>

Gute's drafted 3 OL in 3 straight years. It's how you build good lines and avoid having to sign the Adrian Klemms of the league (or get your aging QB killed).

Seattle's D was good that year, but it wasn't exactly the Legion of Boom. A lot of people think SEA got help from the refs that SB. Oh, and Ted was the VP of Football Operations for SEA back then. He ran the scouting department and the draft boards for Holmgren.

[texaspackerbacker]

With Russell Wilson as with Rodgers, it damn well WAS all the QB - no sarcasm.

Both of them had very very little need for decent O Line blocking to get the job done.

[run pMc]

Holmgren had Hasselbeck, not Wilson.

[bobblehead]

I said Holmgren was a good coach. I just don't think he was as good as LaFleur. Making it to the SB with Hasselbeck? They did have a pretty good defense hahahaha.

Every super bowl team has a pretty good defense. That seahawks team was 7th overall. Below average by super bowl champion standards. And they had a dominant run game....and TT was effectively the GM. Rodgers has never won an Owl with less than the #2 offense if I recall.

[bobblehead]

OL doesn't matter, it's all the QB.</sarcasm>

Gute's drafted 3 OL in 3 straight years. It's how you build good lines and avoid having to sign the Adrian Klemms of the league (or get your aging QB killed).

Seattle's D was good that year, but it wasn't exactly the Legion of Boom. A lot of people think SEA got help from the refs that SB. Oh, and Ted was the VP of Football Operations for SEA back then. He ran the scouting department and the draft boards for Holmgren.

Guess I could have saved some typing and simply said QFT

[bobblehead]

With Russell Wilson as with Rodgers, it damn well WAS all the QB - no sarcasm.

Both of them had very very little need for decent O Line blocking to get the job done.

Tex, I know the years blend at your age, but Holmgren never coached Russell Wilson.

[texaspackerbacker]

OK ...... age plus the fact that I really don't much give a damn about replaying past shit - very little with the Packers and virtually not at all with other teams.

Bottom line: I still say if you have a super mobile QB with a quick release and a mindset not to throw interceptions, then how good the O Line is or not doesn't make a helluva lot of difference and is not that easy to measure the goodness or lack of it of. Rodgers and to only slightly less extent Wilson fit that description. Holmgren made it to the SB with Hasselbeck, not Wilson? Good for him, but I still don't think he is as good a coach overall as LaFleur.

[Sparkey]

OK ...... age plus the fact that I really don't much give a damn about replaying past shit

Hahaha ROTFLMAO . Thats rich!

[sharpe1027]

Yes ....... and the LUCK is that none of the teams drafting earlier saw it that way.

By that definition, almost anything could be called luck. Rodgers is lucky that other more athletic quarterbacks throw more picks than he does. Otherwise, he'd be rated lower