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  • Studs and Duds, Belichecks, 2022:

    Took the family to Monterey to go snorkeling this weekend.

    Did not see the game.

    Sounds kind of grim.

    Let's hear it.

  • #2
    It was, damn grim, with a helluva lot of duds. I'm gonna wait and calm down from being so pissed off before I list my version of them.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #3
      Studs

      Aaron Rodgers if you didn't watch the 1st half.
      Lazard 116 yards receiving
      Jones 110 yards rushing
      Dillon 74 yards rushing
      Gary 2 sacks, knocked Hoyer out

      Duds

      Jenkins- Had trouble with Judon all day.
      Defensive line - Inability to stop run gave 3rd string QB a fighting chance.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        Studs:

        Mason Crosby - made all of his kicks
        Rashan Gary - becoming a force
        Lazard - made the best of his opportunities
        Jones/Dillon - good work all game

        Duds:
        MLF - Hoody genius outcoached him
        Aaron Rodgers - mediocre game
        Doubs - fumble and drop
        Jenkins - poor blocking
        Watson 1 catch for 8 yards
        TE’s - one play all day
        Campbell - invisible
        Walker - washed out of too many plays
        D line- Zappe can’t beat you, stop the run
        2nd half defense - NE moved the ball at will
        Coverage special teams - too much return yardage

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        • #5
          Gotta add O'Donnell as a stud

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          • #6
            I would say whoever called the D was a dud until the 4th Q. We were still playing nickel when the Pats switched to 6 Oline. The Pack finally went to base 3-4 with 3 fatties up front and we got 3 3 and outs to finish the game.
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              I would say whoever called the D was a dud until the 4th Q. We were still playing nickel when the Pats switched to 6 Oline. The Pack finally went to base 3-4 with 3 fatties up front and we got 3 3 and outs to finish the game.
              Agreed. When you're facing a 3rd string QB, make the 3rd string QB beat you. Don't let their running game beat you. That almost happened.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Stud: APB is now 3-0 in game day threads. The ol' burger flipper is on a roll.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #9
                  Stud, run defense edition - Kenny Clark
                  Duds- run defence edition - the entirr team


                  They double teamed Clark non stop and he was by far our best defender.
                  When the commentator said the one oline blew up clark, there were 2 guys on him and one looked like he was trying to force a jersey swap. The rest of the team was lazy bullshit. Gary was a pass rush beast, but set the edge dam it.
                  They almost won because out run defense (besides clark) looked like the 2011 run d... Garbage.

                  Bak is back and suddenly LG runyon looks like a Pro bowler. That is what an all pro tackle does. Man I'm drunk and unhappy about our play.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #10
                    Lots of uneven play this game.
                    I think the run defense was a problem, the backups in the secondary looked lost, 1st half Rodgers played terrible (his QB rating would've been better if he just threw the ball into the ground), and while we expected a rookie rollercoaster it was still tough with Doubs.

                    I realize that NE has a good ground game and a Belichick team is always going to be well coached, but it was still disheartening to need 70 minutes to squeak past a team playing its 3rd string rookie QB.

                    The best thing I can say is "At least they won".

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                    • #11
                      OK, I guess I'm calmed down enough to do this now. A LOT of players were both duds and studs at times - Aaron Rodgers at the top of that list. I've literally never seen him worse than the first half - off target, poor judgment, etc. but he won it for us in the end. Doubs also on that list as well as Douglas and Savage on the D. Gary was a stud on pass rush, but he failed to set the edge on runs multiple times. Amos made one great play but apparently led with his head and had to sit out most of the game.

                      Studs: Crosby - just doing his job when the pressure was on; the interior three of the O Line, Myers, Runyan, and Newman - virtually all the quality runs were up the middle; Jones, as usual, scooted through tiny holes and often made something out of nothing with jump cuts and broken tackles; hardly anybody on D, but Rudy Ford came in and seemed to be all over the field making tackles after others left gaping holes.

                      Duds: almost too numerous to mention, but I'll try. First and foremost - again - Joe Barry. Our D looked pretty pathetic against a depleted team. Most of the individual duddishness can be traced to shoddy coaching, I think. Campbell was way below his usual standard - out of position most of the time. Q. Walker missed tackles and was also absent against the run. The D Line just seemed to melt away - again. Are they really that lame? Or is it just that everybody else has a decent O Line that actually opens holes and pass blocks, unlike our own? And the Barry zone D again was horribly deficent against the pass, even with a fairly inaccurate rookie throwing. A lot of the incompletions were off target to open receivers. Special teams also backslid fairly badly - kick and punt coverage especially. And Amari Rodgers I don't think has the ability to be anything but a permanent dud. Why is it everybody else has somebody with speed returning kicks, and we don't. On offense, Jenkins was horrible. He really should be a Guard. Bakhtiari was mostly bad also. Both of them repeatedly let pass rushers get right through, and we had very little success running outside or off tackle because of lousy blocking.
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                      • #12
                        TeamCheez really nailed it.

                        I might add Joe Barely, as it is unforgivable to let NE run and run and run through you to the point that a third string QB almost beats your team. WTF?

                        There was also a long throw from Rodgers to Watson in which Watson just looked lost trying to track the ball. That seems to be a real issue for him. All the speed and athleticism in the world isn't any good if you can't track the long ball. I hope he can get better at that.

                        And Elgton Jenkins sure looked like a guard trying to play tackle yesterday.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          TeamCheez really nailed it.

                          I might add Joe Barely, as it is unforgivable to let NE run and run and run through you to the point that a third string QB almost beats your team. WTF?

                          There was also a long throw from Rodgers to Watson in which Watson just looked lost trying to track the ball. That seems to be a real issue for him. All the speed and athleticism in the world isn't any good if you can't track the long ball. I hope he can get better at that.

                          And Elgton Jenkins sure looked like a guard trying to play tackle yesterday.
                          was it windy there? that looked like a ball that the wind took, and rodgers did have a few wild throw in that first half

                          i think i heard them mention the wind once early on, but by the end of the game they said there was no wind at all

                          the watson throw was a odd one. could have been wind, or a bad throw, or watson could have ran a bit inside when he should have been right on the sidelie, or he could have just over run it

                          it does seem like a play that they need to keep working on because it looks to be unstoppable if they get the timing right

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            was it windy there? that looked like a ball that the wind took, and rodgers did have a few wild throw in that first half

                            i think i heard them mention the wind once early on, but by the end of the game they said there was no wind at all

                            the watson throw was a odd one. could have been wind, or a bad throw, or watson could have ran a bit inside when he should have been right on the sidelie, or he could have just over run it

                            it does seem like a play that they need to keep working on because it looks to be unstoppable if they get the timing right
                            It was very windy at the game yesterday.
                            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                            -Tim Harmston

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                            • #15
                              It wasn’t that windy. I live in Green Bay. Very mild wind.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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