Avenues to get better?

[RashanGary]

We have 4 bad games to start the season and a decent one against the Bears. It doesnt look good. The OL can’t protect. The defense can’t stop the run and isn’t very good against the pass either. It doesn’t look like a contender right now.


Maybe Jenkins and Bakh round into shape. Maybe we have a lucky healthy year and things start to click as teams are decimated by injury. Maybe we lean into the run game a little more.

But it doesn’t look good. Are they gonna turn it around? And how?

[beveaux1]

We are what we are. We're not changing DCs until after the season, and this is our defense. We've put 5 games on tape, and OCs have a plan that can beat us.

Our offensive hope was built around our rookie WRs growing into the game. Watson is Watkins-a hammy waiting to happen. Doubs can't run most of his routes to the right depth and he has suspect hands.
Rodgers is Rodgers, a guy who loves the quick strike-even without weapons. A guy who would much rather pass than run---at the goal line---on 3rd and 2 in 4 down territory. Really, pretty much any time.

Our head coach can't control Rodgers, he can't adjust when the game plan needs to be adjusted. He does usually start with a pretty good plan.

Maybe that's enough to win 10 or 11. Maybe it's not. It's what we've got.

[red]

We are what we are. We're not changing DCs until after the season, and this is our defense. We've put 5 games on tape, and OCs have a plan that can beat us.

Our offensive hope was built around our rookie WRs growing into the game. Watson is Watkins-a hammy waiting to happen. Doubs can't run most of his routes to the right depth and he has suspect hands.
Rodgers is Rodgers, a guy who loves the quick strike-even without weapons. A guy who would much rather pass than run---at the goal line---on 3rd and 2 in 4 down territory. Really, pretty much any time.

Our head coach can't control Rodgers, he can't adjust when the game plan needs to be adjusted. He does usually start with a pretty good plan.

Maybe that's enough to win 10 or 11. Maybe it's not. It's what we've got.

i was gonna say changed DC's and start running the kid coaches offense

but yu pretty much summed up why those aren't gonna happen

we are what we are. not as good as a of of people thought we would be

[King Friday]

There are minimal ways to improve. The OL is what it is. Bahk is a shell of his former self, and won’t be back to an All Pro level at any point in the future. The rest of the OL keeps playing musical chairs to offset for that, to their detriment. Rodgers refuses to be in charge of a run first offense, and will never take what the defense gives him. Defensively, we are led by a guy who had a full offseason to prepare for the Vikings, and crafted a game plan that covered Jefferson with LBs. That should tell you all you need to know right there.

Packers will win 10-11 games this year, may squeak into the playoffs, but won’t scare anyone with their lack of dynamic playmakers on either side of the ball. Rodgers is likely gone after this season, because he will realize he has no chance to get back to a SB in Green Bay now. Love will be a horrific flop. MLF doesn’t have the balls to actually fire assistant coaches that need to be fired. The Packers face an uncertain future over the next 3-5 years.

[bobblehead]

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.


There are a ton of avenues to improve. There also are problems that may not get better. Playing 2 halves of football on offense would be a start. And yes, Rodgers seems to figure he made his point so he can go back to playing the same way that inspired them to draft Love in the first place.

[bobblehead]

Personally I think banging Giselle seems to be the key to Sampson's strength. We want an owl.... Rodgers needs to make his move. In the immortal words of the joker.....never rub another mans rubarb. Tap Giselle and i promise Brady is finished.

[Jaire]

The O line can improve a lot. It depends on Jenkins and Bakh getting back to health. Also would like to see someone else take Newman's spot. When Bakh is back would like Jenkins to move inside. Someone needs to step up and take the right tackle position.

The defense obviously is not playing to ability.

Way too early to give up on this team. Too much talent and a lot of youth that needs reps. But before season started, I thought the Oline was most critical to success: and that will take some time. I don't expect to see what this team can do til at least mid season.

The giants came to play.

[Jaire]

Also this is a real opportunity to see what this team is made of.

They have had very few losses like this under MLF. 17-0 in the second half was a bad performance against a less talented team. The locker room is down. Next Sunday seems to me a key game.

[ThunderDan]

The Packers have to figure out how to make adjustments during the game.

We had a great game plan going into the game. Our D played well in the first half. So did our offense. We shut the run game down and the Giants adjust their game plan and went to play action with crossing routes. They ate us up after that point. Berry didn’t seem to make any adjustment to the change in NY’s O. The O game out and threw the ball all over the field in the 2nd half and abandoned the run.

It wasn’t until the last drive that we went back to the run game and quick passing game and we moved the ball again.

I put this loss squarely on the coaching.

[red]

The Packers have to figure out how to make adjustments during the game.

We had a great game plan going into the game. Our D played well in the first half. So did our offense. We shut the run game down and the Giants adjust their game plan and went to play action with crossing routes. They ate us up after that point. Berry didn’t seem to make any adjustment to the change in NY’s O. The O game out and threw the ball all over the field in the 2nd half and abandoned the run.

It wasn’t until the last drive that we went back to the run game and quick passing game and we moved the ball again.

I put this loss squarely on the coaching.

and its not the first time this staff has been out-adjusted at half time this season

[Bretsky]

I don't know if any of us caught this, but it was VERY telling that in interviews Matty L noted to the media that he had a chat with Joe Barry about our defensive philosophy.
For the most part nobody cares for Barry it seems, in the media and amongst us.

Petting was fired, and basically our defensive rating last year was about he same as it was last year. All of this zone crap has to go.

What was telling is we played some decent man in the first half, and then last drive of first half when the Giants scored on us...seemed to send Joeb back to zoneworld.

So we have Matty and JoeB as buddies from the past, but Matty is questioning the strategy. Interesting

[Bretsky]

I've always thought there are going to be some bumps in the road due to our youth but hopefully we are the team everybody fears about the bye week and into the playoffs

[Bretsky]

RANDOM THOUGHT

WAY TOO EARLY TO TELL, but all these added draft picks are not doing SHIT for us.

We had "2" first round draft picks and "2" second round draft picks.

We got Walker, who loos decent. Wyatt, who hasn't shown much and is giving us nothing. And with BOTH 2nd round draft picks, we have Chrissy.

I hope things look WAY better for GUTEBAG soon on this return out of the 4 picks

[red]

I don't know if any of us caught this, but it was VERY telling that in interviews Matty L noted to the media that he had a chat with Joe Barry about our defensive philosophy.
For the most part nobody cares for Barry it seems, in the media and amongst us.

Petting was fired, and basically our defensive rating last year was about he same as it was last year. All of this zone crap has to go.

What was telling is we played some decent man in the first half, and then last drive of first half when the Giants scored on us...seemed to send Joeb back to zoneworld.

So we have Matty and JoeB as buddies from the past, but Matty is questioning the strategy. Interesting

we have 3 really good corners, including one of the very best. our safeties are fine. so why the hell are we not playing man?

[beveaux1]

we have 3 really good corners, including one of the very best. our safeties are fine. so why the hell are we not playing man?

I don't think Douglas is a man corner. Too soon to tell on Stokes. He really hasn't played it much. The prevailing thought is you're usually either zone or man and you're drafted as either a zone or man corner.