Official 2023 NFL Draft Thread

[Fritz]

What do you think the odds are they draft a kicker? My choice would be Moody from Michigan, preferably late Day 3.
I expect Gute will backfill the ST troops with R7 picks.

I don't know how big Moody's leg is, but he's been clutch for Michigan. He'd be worth a seventh round flyer, I would think.

[run pMc]

I don't know how big Moody's leg is, but he's been clutch for Michigan. He'd be worth a seventh round flyer, I would think.

IIRC he's kicked a few 50+ yarders outside.
It's gotta be bigger than Crosby's at this point.

Experience kicking in elements has to matter too.

[Bretsky]

What wide receivers would you be elated with in round one ? In round 2 ? This position has been prioritized on past seasons more and more. Guys at this position do not slip

[HarveyWallbangers]

What wide receivers would you be elated with in round one ? In round 2 ? This position has been prioritized on past seasons more and more. Guys at this position do not slip

I'm a big fan of Zay Flowers, and I'm much higher on Jonathan Mingo than the experts. Grant DuBose is my sleeper. Matt Landers and Bryce Ford-Wheaton are a couple of size/speed guys that will go in the middle rounds.

[run pMc]

Yeah, I like Zay Flowers too, but he's not a fit for GB if you believe in their Ht./Wt. minimums. Jordan Addison is smooth and reminds of a less explosive Olave, probably a late first rounder or early second rounder.
Quentin Johnson is a big dude, but I feel like he's a better athlete than football player.

Not a great WR class this year, although there are some Day 2/Day 3 players (A.T.Perry, Rashee Rice, J.Mingo, D.Wicks) that could be ok. I haven't really seen much about Xavier Hutchinson, who looked ok in R4 to me.

There were some rumors that Gb really liked Jalin Hyatt from TEN. Dude is lightning fast but I'm not sure about that offense he was in...makes it tough to figure out if he's good or just fast. The speed is apparent on film, and if they are looking for another deep threat I could squint and see it maybe... he doesn't really fit the Ht./Wt. minimums either though.

This year there are a lot of smaller WRs, so maybe GB breaks tendencies.

As for JSN, I like his ability to find spots in zones and he's got some fearlessness over the middle, but I don't think he's fast or especially dynamic. Good change of direction and looks like he's going to be a productive pro, but in a Mohammed Sanu kind of way. Not sure that's R1 worthy, but if you need a WR you could talk yourself into reaching for one.

I'm hearing people say there are less than 15 players worthy of a first round grade and after that it's kind of a crapshoot. Some good depth at certain positions, but overall not a lot of top end talent. GB needs to have another very good draft like last year, Gute has his work cut out for him.

[run pMc]

Has anyone heard if Dalton Kincaid's medicals checked out? I haven't seen much of any pro day or draft news lately.
Back injuries are not a good sign and there are plenty of other athletic pass catching TE options, so I've jumped off the Kincaid bandwagon, but I was just curious. I still see him taken in R1 in a lot of mock drafts.
At this point I think Sam LaPorta could be just as good in the right scheme, and could be had a round later.


Regardless, I think Gute is going to almost have to reach at one spot or another for a player. This draft has some nice depth at some spots and a lot of yikes at others. Getting value where he can and bringing in good cheap quality talent will be important. Stacking a few good drafts together would be nice after some of those TT years (and even 2018).

[Fritz]

Has anyone heard if Dalton Kincaid's medicals checked out? I haven't seen much of any pro day or draft news lately.
Back injuries are not a good sign and there are plenty of other athletic pass catching TE options, so I've jumped off the Kincaid bandwagon, but I was just curious. I still see him taken in R1 in a lot of mock drafts.
At this point I think Sam LaPorta could be just as good in the right scheme, and could be had a round later.


Regardless, I think Gute is going to almost have to reach at one spot or another for a player. This draft has some nice depth at some spots and a lot of yikes at others. Getting value where he can and bringing in good cheap quality talent will be important. Stacking a few good drafts together would be nice after some of those TT years (and even 2018).

Did you hurt your back when you did that?

[QBME]

I'm a big fan of Zay Flowers, and I'm much higher on Jonathan Mingo than the experts. Grant DuBose is my sleeper. Matt Landers and Bryce Ford-Wheaton are a couple of size/speed guys that will go in the middle rounds.

I don't know from squat, but definitely not a good NFL name.

[Joemailman]

I don't know from squat, but definitely not a good NFL name.

Actually, it goes rather well with LaFleur.

[Joemailman]

For what it's worth, the consensus Packers pick at https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com...ock-draft-2023 has gone from Michael Mayer to Lukas Van Ness.

[jklowan]

I am hoping this is the pick Calijah Kancey and if we somehow rangle the 13th pick from the Jets Van ness would be nice. Our D-line would be stacked

[MadScientist]

If not in the first round, I hope that the Packers spend a second on a TE who isn't a plodding piece of crap. They desperately need to get better at that position.

[run pMc]

I could see them going with Van Ness as the pick. Young, has physical tools, very raw though. He's a project to develop and all he does is bull rush. GB likes bigger edges vs. the smaller bendy edges (e.g. Rashan Gary vs. Brian Burns) so Van Ness makes some sense. I like the Foskey kid from ND - I think he can be a worthy successor to Preston Smith - can play the run, set an edge, good athlete, good college production, plus as your #3-4 EDGE he loves playing ST, which is where he'll likely see a number of snaps. Less of a project than Van Ness: higher floor, slightly lower ceiling.

Lots of people love the Kancey kid and compare him to Aaron Donald, but I'm not sure he has the same strength and arm length to do what Donald does. He's undersized but very quick. At 280 where do you play him? EDGE? DL? He's a weird fit for Barry's defense and I don't think he'd know what to do with him. I also think a 6' 280 DL playing over the G is going to get run over at the pro level. (Think Derrick Henry running behind his RG straight at the kid.) I think a team like Philly would know what to do with him, especially if they are playing a 4-3 and they can have a big dude like Jordan Davis eat up space and keep him 1-1, or if you only play him on passing downs. If you only do the latter, do you want to spend a top 15 pick on a DPR who sees the field for 15-20 snaps a game at most? I'd think about it in R3, but R1 is too rich for me.

[run pMc]

If not in the first round, I hope that the Packers spend a second on a TE who isn't a plodding piece of crap. They desperately need to get better at that position.

Agree. I think they take one by end of Day 2, and grab a second one on Day 3. All they have are practice squad guys, Tyler Davis, and Deguara under contract. They will restock at TE simply because they need capable bodies and this is a good draft for them so I'd expect them to take at least one.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think the TE position has some interesting prospects. I think you could get two good ones some where in the first 4 rounds. Darnell Washington is interesting because he is a clone of Mercedes Lewis. I think you can figure out a pass catching option maybe sooner or later in the draft but Washington's combination of size and athleticism will force some team to reach on him, I am thinking somewhere in the second round. He is a game changer in the run game.

I feel like TE is a position where you have the top 3 or 4 guys in Tier one and you are just trying to get a piece of it and not be the first one to pull the trigger on them.